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The 65-year-old said it's not his generation group to blame, it's Congress'.

You - and the rest of your generation - voted for them.

Reap what you sow.


1 posted on 07/30/2011 10:33:00 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
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It was the so called “greatest generation” that set up this socialist trap for us to fall in to. We of course went along with it because it was “status quo”. As far as those that continue voting for the bankruptcy option that is part and parcel of their “love”, yes we bought into it by a solid majority. I blame the past generation, I blame our generation, and I hope the generation we spawned have enough sense to end it all with compassion and wisdom. As it is, we are all (*&^ed.


57 posted on 07/30/2011 11:43:06 PM PDT by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics.)
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You - and the rest of your generation - voted for them.

Rabby, may I gently point out that your blaming an entire generation for the situation that we're in, as you just did, is a fundamentally collectivist position?

63 posted on 07/30/2011 11:52:26 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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the boomers have paid the highest taxes for the longest time....NOT voluntarily....

the generation before us.... alot of them didn't even work yet collected for 30 yrs or more and some still are...

I pay high premiums for my husbands health insurance..several hundred dollars a month....and I get dinged to pay for medicare...

do not blame me nor my age group.....we played by the rules...we paid forever....

IF they had taken just a little away from retirees 30 yrs ago instead of going along like nothing was wrong, then we wouldn't be in this position...

we allow double dippers and triple dippers, people collecting disability for "stress" and bad backs..illegals enlisting their children because they are "hyper"....

86 posted on 07/31/2011 12:36:22 AM PDT by cherry
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They lived well, grew up in relative abundance and, some say, expected their Social Security, health care and government support to be there as they grew old.

Not me. I was born in 1950, and I assumed in my twenties that Social Security was be long since looted and gone before I received a dime from it. I've paid in all these years.

Now, I have to read that I am "greedy".
93 posted on 07/31/2011 1:40:28 AM PDT by Nepeta
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But criticizing baby boomers is not necessarily a politically wise thing to do, especially when it comes to their voting behavior.

Yep, it is the Congress who stole it.

The Baby Boomers have been paying into the program all their working lives.

And no, I didn't vote for them. I voted against every US Congressman and every US Senator other people voted for until this last time around (Yay! We won!--I think... the jury is still out, but so are the incumbents.), but I got stuck with the likes of Kent Comrade of Countrywide who has been running on "saving" Social Security and the family farm since there were a lot more family farms, and the people who were played for suckers bought it.

94 posted on 07/31/2011 1:51:02 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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I’m not sure who’s most to blame.

I do know there is a mess to clean up.

I know it is our job to clean it up.

God Bless those in the House who have held firm, against all threats, against being called extreme, against name calling, threats of violence, etc.

God Bless them because they are soldiers fighting the good fight, in what appears to be an up-hill battle.

My sarge told us once after some guys were grumbling about politics: “it don’t matter who made the mess, its a mess, a fine mess.... but we’re here to clean it up” (or some such words)

That’s how I feel about the TEA party right now. Plenty of blame to go around, to both the Dems and Repubs. Neither one of them has proven they can work in the kitchen without making a helluva mess. So, as far as I’m concerned, they’ve lost that privilege. We’re here to clean up the mess. It won’t be easy, it won’t be pretty. Stiff upper lip and all that, assh*les and elbows and lets get to cleanin’. Belly achin’ about it aint gonna get it done, layin blame aint gonna get it done. We know what we have to do, and we’re doin it.

D’s and R’s go sit in the corner. The TEA party is here.


96 posted on 07/31/2011 2:38:22 AM PDT by esoxmagnum (The rats have been trained to pull the D voting lever to get their little food pellet)
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Well, yes ----- about as much as the GenXer's and Y'ers who happen to be the future liability bomb this country faces, right along with the baby boomers.

Alinsky Rule: Get the other side to in-fight while you clock them both from behind.

We got here because of the 48% of us that do not pay taxes, the millions on EBT, AFDC, SSI, WICs SCHIP, EITC, free Pre-K (glorified babysitting), Advance EITC payments, Pell Grants and on and on and on and on.

Last time I was at an SS office, it was full of foreigners and young fat people or girls with babies (sans dad) applying for SSI, SS for their immigrant parents and the like.

97 posted on 07/31/2011 2:44:59 AM PDT by Gaffer
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The 2011 annual report by the program's Board of Trustees noted the following: in 2010, 54 million people were receiving Social Security benefits, while 157 million people were paying into the fund; of those receiving benefits, 44 million were receiving retirement benefits and 10 million disability benefits. In 2011, there will be 56 million beneficiaries and 158 million workers paying in

So, 20% is disability. You know, the disability those lawyers on TV are always saying they can get that disability you applied for and were denied [The Johnny Cochran Firm]. Additionally, my guess is that there's a good percentage of that 44 million getting SSI which the SS classifies as retirement benefits. There's yer truble, right there...

98 posted on 07/31/2011 2:52:41 AM PDT by Gaffer
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Some of the boomers tried to warn, beginning forty plus years ago, Freedom does not come from being in Debt. How many listened?
100 posted on 07/31/2011 3:46:39 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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The "Baby Boom" is a myth, another MSM/Academia fabrication. If you look at the linked chart,
The birthrate was in free fall from 1958 to approximately 1969. Another case of forming facts to fit a phenomenon, that wasn't.
101 posted on 07/31/2011 3:47:22 AM PDT by j.argese (You may think you've won the day, in the end you will surely lose the important race.)
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We were doomed when we kicked God out of our schools in 1962.
Anyone who blames “the boomers” has not studied the issue and is just repeating things they heard by a media that wants all amwericans at each others throats so they can usher in the new world order.


106 posted on 07/31/2011 4:13:41 AM PDT by winodog
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Are baby boomers to blame for debt crisis?

NO. Allowing congress to spend the money in the SS lock box is the problem. The president that did that, I believe, was Bill (better put some ice on that) Clinton.


111 posted on 07/31/2011 4:37:19 AM PDT by chainsaw (I'd hate to be a democrat running against Sarah Palin.)
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We got to where we are election by election. Just blaming one age group doesn’t make sense.


113 posted on 07/31/2011 5:27:25 AM PDT by Average Al
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Dear Great Geanteration,

Social Security was a scam from the get-go. The “extra” money from the collection of SS tax was used by Congress to buy votes. period. Both Democrat and Republican Congresses ever since.


114 posted on 07/31/2011 5:36:55 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Obama takes office, and 2 years later our nation is using the word 'default'? -HereInTheHeartland)
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I do not blame the boomer or most Americans. It as been the insidious “Progressives” of both parties, but primarily in the MSM, the Universities, and the education establishment that are to blame.

The leftists in the media did this to us by repeatedly lying to the American people. They are still doing so. People can only act on the information that they have, and they have been denied accurate information for decades.

116 posted on 07/31/2011 5:50:39 AM PDT by marktwain
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What a load of tripe. The Democrat Congress and President are to blame for increasing spending by 5 trillion dollars. End of story.


117 posted on 07/31/2011 5:52:06 AM PDT by gunsmithkat (There is no such thing as Too Many Guns)
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"Under current law, what's supposed to happen is once the trust fund runs dry, the benefits are to be cut by roughly 25% to bring it back into balance. Each year's income will equalize the outflow," said Frey..."But no one expects that to happen. (So) are we going to raise taxes on current workers? Are we going to get rid of the tax?"

Only a 25% cut? And that is worst case. If we would even try to get our spending under control now, and simply freeze Socialist Insecurity benefits at current levels, we wouldn't have to make any cuts.

75% of the future rates is still much, much better than crashing the economy.

I am a boomer.

118 posted on 07/31/2011 5:56:40 AM PDT by marktwain
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That is right Communist Neuter Network, blame the victim. We were drafted into Viet Nam by which party? We were robbed by which party mainly? Which government plundered our retirement?
120 posted on 07/31/2011 6:01:53 AM PDT by mountainlion (AMERICA LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT.)
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I have a couple of decades to go before 65 so I’m not counting on Social Security. The retiring boomers are not to blame. IF the money had been saved and invested like the great and all powerful mamma-sow with ten thousand nipples of a government told us, more would be there for the retirees. But, like all good governments, our great nippular sow has, through the generations, helped itself to as much of that money as it wanted, and then some. The money should be there - but it isn’t.


122 posted on 07/31/2011 6:10:09 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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I recall such luminaries as ‘Tip’ O’Neil, Claude ‘Red’ Pepper and multiple others who saw the benefit of raiding the public purse. The schemes were simple and numerous, this group wanted more supplemental Social Security, this group wanted more MedicAid and on it went. Each of them was able to trot a convincing case of needing more taxpayer money and each had the implicit promise of more votes to the party that gave them these ‘gifts’. Every entitlement started small but that is only at the start and now we look at this monster that cannot be cut without loud screams from all who are effected. Yes it was both Dem & GOP but remember History PLEASE, this structure was built at a time when the GOP had Presidents but Congress was RULED by the Dems.


123 posted on 07/31/2011 6:14:12 AM PDT by SES1066 (1776 to 2011, 235 years and counting in the GRAND EXPERIMENT!)
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