Posted on 07/29/2011 3:28:00 PM PDT by newzjunkey
I am proud to say that my House Rep voted against this trash.
lol, Drudge headline says, “Ball in Your Court, Harry”......should say, “Ball in Your Court, Barry”.
Harry will only do what Barry tells him to.
Many here don’t understand the real horror of that Super Congress.
I really don’t understand why they don’t get it.
They think everything will be fine because it has 6 republicans and whatever comes out still has to be voted on...
they are in for a rude awakening..I just hope it is not as bad as I fear...but with obama/reid/mcconnell/and cry baby Boehner concocting this scheme drunk with power...
I fear those mechanisms...
Geez, I’ve already told you who three of them were!!
If you want to trust HuffPo and FOX, then fine.
Look, you’re gonna believe whatever you wanna believe. But there are at least three and possibly (IMO) six phony TP congresscritters in that list of 22.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/273139/graham-pleased-boehner-plan-revisions-robert-costa
He doesn’t come right out and say he supports Boehner’s plan..just says that it is more in line...
It could be something awful like "PAY-GO" which means a simple majority can increase taxes and keep spending.
This is the one that was introduced as part of "Cut, Cap & Balance" Balanced Budget Amendment HJ RES 56 (same as SR RES 10)
JOINT RESOLUTIONProposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States relative to balancing the budget.
Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled (two-thirds of each House concurring therein), That the following article is proposed as an amendment to the Constitution of the United States, which shall be valid to all intents and purposes as part of the Constitution when ratified by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States:
`Article--
`Section 1. Total outlays for any fiscal year shall not exceed total receipts for that fiscal year, unless two-thirds of the duly chosen and sworn Members of each House of Congress shall provide by law for a specific excess of outlays over receipts by a roll call vote.
`Section 2. Total outlays for any fiscal year shall not exceed 18 percent of the gross domestic product of the United States for the calendar year ending before the beginning of such fiscal year, unless two-thirds of the duly chosen and sworn Members of each House of Congress shall provide by law for a specific amount in excess of such 18 percent by a roll call vote.
`Section 3. Prior to each fiscal year, the President shall transmit to the Congress a proposed budget for the United States Government for that fiscal year in which--
`(1) total outlays do not exceed total receipts; and
`(2) total outlays do not exceed 18 percent of the gross domestic product of the United States for the calendar year ending before the beginning of such fiscal year.
`Section 4. Any bill that imposes a new tax or increases the statutory rate of any tax or the aggregate amount of revenue may pass only by a two-thirds majority of the duly chosen and sworn Members of each House of Congress by a roll call vote. For the purpose of determining any increase in revenue under this section, there shall be excluded any increase resulting from the lowering of the statutory rate of any tax.
`Section 5. The limit on the debt of the United States shall not be increased, unless three-fifths of the duly chosen and sworn Members of each House of Congress shall provide for such an increase by a roll call vote.
`Section 6. The Congress may waive the provisions of sections 1, 2, 3, and 5 of this article for any fiscal year in which a declaration of war against a nation-state is in effect and in which a majority of the duly chosen and sworn Members of each House of Congress shall provide for a specific excess by a roll call vote.
`Section 7. The Congress may waive the provisions of sections 1, 2, 3, and 5 of this article in any fiscal year in which the United States is engaged in a military conflict that causes an imminent and serious military threat to national security and is so declared by three-fifths of the duly chosen and sworn Members of each House of Congress by a roll call vote. Such suspension must identify and be limited to the specific excess of outlays for that fiscal year made necessary by the identified military conflict.
`Section 8. No court of the United States or of any State shall order any increase in revenue to enforce this article.
`Section 9. Total receipts shall include all receipts of the United States Government except those derived from borrowing. Total outlays shall include all outlays of the United States Government except those for repayment of debt principal.
`Section 10. The Congress shall have power to enforce and implement this article by appropriate legislation, which may rely on estimates of outlays, receipts, and gross domestic product.
`Section 11. This article shall take effect beginning with the fifth fiscal year beginning after its ratification.'.
Boehner wants ONE version to push from now until the October vote under his bill. We don't need 3, 4, 5, an endless number competing against each other. Maybe it'll be that one version I posted above.
It looks pretty good to me on first pass: it's easy to cut taxes, hard to raise taxes.
It bans courts from ordering tax increases too so the "activist court" avenue is closed to the Dems. There are supermajority requirements and safeguards.
There's months to battle over possible loopholes and escapes.
I gave you 3 congresscritters, if you want to believe it’s not those 3 people and it’s someone else, go ahead, what do I care?
Can you confirm for me if I heard that correctly?
Would you give her credit if she did? I would be curious to see THAT. Because I have seen a LOT of people who have refused to give her credit for speaking out, and strongly so, about this debt ceiling crap over and over on the side of the TEA Party.
If the current thuggery administration would stop impeding business, by removing the mountain of regs and federal commission delays, the economy would start to recover, even with the increase in the debt limit. If the economy starts to rebound, the revenue starts to increase. THAN the adults must step in to not only make cuts in spending but prevent increased or new spending. Freeze the funds for whole branches of government, freeze government workers’ wages, freeze pay for senators and congresscritters and the White house resident. Bring our troops home from bases no needed to fight the war on terrorism and close those bases. Close the department of Education, end subsdies for crap like PBS and Planned Barrenhood and ACORN’s newly formed branches under new sneaky names, and put in place a national voter ID program while placing our returning activity duty folks on the Southern border to end the invasion ofthose seeking to destroy this Republic. That is a plan which could actually reverse the debt crisis, sending our economic house toward a true balanced budget and free from debt. Running the federal oligarchy on borrowed money is the bankers’ idea of control. Rothchild said he didn’t care who wrote the laws of aq nation so long as he controled their money. The federal resertve is a private banking cabal running our money and herding Americans in any ****** direction the elites so choose. Time for them to go
“They think everything will be fine because it has 6 republicans and whatever comes out still has to be voted on...”
I envision the three GOP knuckleheads from the Gang of Six sitting on it the committee with McCain and two other RINOs.
12-0 vote in favor of tax hikes...
Too few people leave them open for powerful 'political blackmail', as you know. You're fears of these mechanisms is rightly so.
BTW,I believe we need to see what we can do to make sure the Patriot 22 ALL get leadership positions come January 2013.
Boehner won't complain because we are going to primary him and his Merry RINOs to hell!
Right now, I am in fear of just about anything that happens from now until 2012 in DC. The damage that has been done just so far is of a magnitude almost beyond comprehension. And it is only going to get worse from here.
Reid has said it is dead on arrival in the Senate. But how many votes has he passed on the debt crisis? How many plans has Zero proposed? Republicans have the upper hand, I think. Even if there is no chance they're passed, they, as a body passed two bills and should be shouting this to the American people. If the Senate sends down a watered down crappy bill, shout it again —we've already sent you two bills, compromised as much as possible in the second, deal with it. Take it to the American people. If we could get it passed in the Senate, I would love to see Obama veto it. He'd be toast.
There were some that waited to vote until boehner got his votes. I think someone posted on this thread who they were.
They are a yes vote as far as I am concerned.
"H.R.9214 Latest Title: A bill to amend the Bretton Woods Agreement Act to authorize the United States to participate in the Supplementary Financing Facility of the International Monetary Fund. Sponsor: Rep Neal, Stephen L. [NC-5] (by request) (introduced 9/20/1977) Cosponsors (None) Related Bills: H.RES.990, S.2152 Latest Major Action: 10/10/1978 Public Law 95-435.
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