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"For example, Democrats want to make sure that if Republicans walk from those talks, there might be some tax increases that would kick in automatically -- giving the GOP incentive to stay and work out a deal."
1 posted on 07/28/2011 8:04:37 PM PDT by tobyhill
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Dear House Republicans:

YOU ARE THE F'ING MAJORITY!!!

STOP ACCEPTING THE PREMISE THAT WE MUST INCREASE THE DEBT CEILING!!!

INCREASING THE DEBT CEILING IS YOUR COMPROMISE!!!

THE REST OF THE COMPROMISING IS UP TO THE DEMOCRATS!!!!!!!

43 posted on 07/28/2011 8:33:12 PM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Uncertainty: it's the new normal)
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From the article: “...But a big caveat here: If Senate Republicans were to sign on to such a deal, it would of course still need to get back through the House, where many conservatives would balk. As one senior House Republican aide told Fox News, “I hope the president can get a ton of (Democratic) House votes then” to get it through the chamber.”

- Everything you need to know about what’s really going on is in that quote from the House Repub aide...


46 posted on 07/28/2011 8:36:07 PM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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I shudder to think what this thing will eventually look like.

We’re screwed no matter what. We refuse to pass a bill and we’re the troublemakers.

We pass a bill and it will look like something Ted Kennedy on his worst bender ever, came up with.

Does Boehner think that “CHARGE” means wheel around and run away from the fight?

If I were the Freshmen, I’d be holding constant meetings, so they don’t get picked off.

Perhaps they should make all communications with the leaders public.


50 posted on 07/28/2011 8:39:16 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ($1.8 tril yearly deficits = $18 tril in ten years. So now we're proposing $4 tril in cuts? Really?)
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It is evident that "moderates" from both parties are willing to find some common ground to effect an increase in the debt limit while the polar opposites in each party refuse to compromise under any circumstance.

Good luck on changing the game.

51 posted on 07/28/2011 8:40:27 PM PDT by verity (The Obama Administration is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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The democrats want one thing and that is to get this past the next election. In fact, they knew they’d never get a tax increase through the house so they stuck that out there as something they could compromise on. And the stupid GOP fell for it hook, line and sinker.


57 posted on 07/28/2011 8:47:34 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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Democratic officials are cautiously optimistic that the outlines of a potential compromise – a “Plan C” – are emerging that could bridge the differences between plans pushed by House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.

There is no Reid Plan and if there were it would not get out of the Senate, let's get that point straight up front. The only thing to be bridged is the amount of the debt limit increase. Boehner's bill raises the debt Limit about $1 trillion which give about 6 months of borrowing authority Reid wants at least 18 months which would require about $3 trillion more in debt limit increase.

So where will the money for plan "C" come from? Why tax increases or cuts to entitlements of course. Now what chance would that have in the Senate or the House?

This is why the only option is to bring back CCB.

But to have a plan "C" Boehner's bill has to pass so maybe the House RATs better let it be known that they would vote for his bill.

59 posted on 07/28/2011 8:49:27 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obama, eat your GOPeas.)
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Well, if this happens, it pretty much guarantees a 3rd party in some form.


67 posted on 07/28/2011 9:07:09 PM PDT by Antoninus (Nothing that offends God can possibly be a legitimate right.)
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Plan C where lack of republican "compromise" triggers automatic tax increases. Yeah, that will work.

Plan C = Cut Cap and Bend over.

68 posted on 07/28/2011 9:11:05 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (0 - 537 They ALL must go.)
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Mark Levin was talking about how he strongly suspects that Boner and Reid had their staffs working on a deal, while the postured their own for political effect. I believe it, it is time to start planning for 1775 revisited. Where is Ben Franklin, and George Washington to begin the process of negotiations with the foreign, far away “autocracy” on our behalf?


75 posted on 07/28/2011 9:44:06 PM PDT by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics.)
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Obama’s only hope in 2012 is to split the republican party, and he knows it.

He is currently using every bit of RINO clout he has to assert their power against the tea party.

Obama could care less about the debt ceiling...
He doesn’t care if it’s raised or not.

What he wants is the fight.

It divides our party... and solidifies his re-election.

Solution??? FIRE BOEHNER and McConnel!!!

Get a leader in there that will start using things like impeachment procedures to get things through the senate and signed into law.


81 posted on 07/28/2011 10:31:07 PM PDT by Safrguns
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Screwing conservatives is what the GOP does best.


82 posted on 07/28/2011 10:35:25 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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