If Beohner loses, Obama wins. This will be spun as (and will actually be) a huge GOP loss and huge gain for Reid and Obama. The bottom line is Obama will get to push it all past the 2012 election. It will take all the pressure off for cuts. Disaster.
Yup. Boehner's bill sucks, but if he loses this vote he is done as Speaker and the Republicans will look like the gang who couldn't shoot straight. The Reid bill will end up passing the Senate as enough frustrated Senate Republicans will get a few concessions and go along, then the modified Reid bill will go to the House and pass because they will no longer need any Tea Party or movement conservatives at all - they'll have Democrats to vote for it.
If Boehner's bill goes down we lose all leverage and will end up getting a far worse bill than the crappy Boehner bill.
Republicans in the Senate and House should have drafted ONE bill, got EVERYONE on board, stuck to it, passed it in the House and declared their job done. Since Reid can't pass anything and the President has no plan, something like Cut, Cap and Balance should have been it. Unfortunately, what's done is done and we can't go back in time and fix this terrible GOP strategy.
I don’t think you understand. I don’t care if the GOP loses. The GOP’s plan is almost a mirror image of Reid’s plan and does NOTHING to save our economy. The “cuts” amount to change found in the street next to the trillions more in debt we rack up. believe me I get it. I get they hav no intention of cutting spending. I get that they lie and try to fool the populace with accounting tricks and then come election say well..if only we had a few more seats...and then we give them more seats...and then they betray us again...and then they announce well if only we had a couple more....WE PLAYED THIS GAME BEFORE!!! Maybe you remember the 1990’s into 2006. Know why they lost in 2006? Because we finally got wise to it. That’s why Republicans weren’t winning jack until the idea of primarying these weasels caught fire. But if those weasels will turn into the enemy after less then 2 years my attitude is to burn it all to the ground.
They either hold to the promises they made or it’s time for a third party and my only involvement with the GOP at that point would be practicing revenge starting at the top with the lead crier threatening conservative members of the caucus. Boehner needs to be rmeoved one way or the other. Either by humiliting defeat or primarying his butt out of existence.
If Beohner loses, Obama wins
You should work on turning your failed state, California, back from the abyss. It is that type of thought pattern that has caused your state to fail. No thanks. We don’t need a failed country, like your failed state.