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To: Diogenesis
See? you don't understand what you copy and paste.

Perhaps your emotions blind you, or, it could be that you don't read any more of the references than the bits you post on these threads. I'm going to post more complete data for the benefit of those who are interested.

First, remember that the Governor is the head of the Executive Branch, charged by the citizens of Texas with overseeing the State Department of Health Services, which had statutory authority to mandate vaccines (and still does, other than this one vaccine, for which the Legislature wrote a special law). The Governor irritated various special interests by ordering public education on the vaccine and making the opt out process easier.

Public Information.The Department of State Health Services will implement a public awareness campaign to educate the public of the importance of vaccination, the availability of the vaccine, and the subsequent requirements under the rules that will be adopted.
Parents’ Rights.The Department of State Health Services will, in order to protect the right of parents to be the final authority on their children’s health care, modify the current process in order to allow parents to submit a request for a conscientious objection affidavit form via the Internet while maintaining privacy safeguards under current law.

Secondly, I wrote about the burden of repeat paps and treatment for HPV changes and did not say that Paps, pelvic exams and STD surveillance were not necessary. However, since the admission that HPV causes 99.3% of all precancerous and cancerous changes, the guidelines for first Pap and for routine surveillance have changed. From the CDC:

When to Get Screened
You should start getting regular Pap tests at age 21, or within three years of the first time you have sex—whichever happens first. The Pap test, which screens for cervical cancer, is one of the most reliable and effective cancer screening tests available.
The only cancer for which the Pap test screens is cervical cancer. It does not screen for ovarian, uterine, vaginal, or vulvar cancers. So even if you have a Pap test regularly, if you notice any signs or symptoms that are unusual for you, see a doctor to find out why you're having them. In addition to the Pap test—the main test for cervical cancer—the HPV test may also be used to screen women aged 30 years and older, or women of any age who have unclear Pap test results. If you are 30 years old or older and your screening tests are normal, your chance of getting cervical cancer in the next few years is very low. For that reason, your doctor may tell you that you will not need another screening test for up to three years. But you should still go to the doctor regularly for a check-up that may include a pelvic exam.
It is important for you to continue getting a Pap test regularly—even if you think you are too old to have a child, or are not having sex anymore. If you are older than 65 and have had normal Pap test results for several years, or if you have had your cervix removed (during an operation called a hysterectomy), your doctor may tell you it is okay to stop getting regular Pap tests.
For more information, please read the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force overview of cervical cancer screening recommendations.

Those symptoms you've pasted as a reaction to the vaccine are very common for any medical procedure (or even in some people who witness or think about such procedures, the reason that I require med students and residents to sit when they proctor observe while I do circumcisions), and the bulk are due to vaso-vagal motor responses to anxiety about the body, "fainting." See this reference:The patient experiences a brief loss of consciousness, preceded by a sense of anticipation. First, there is a period of sympathetic tone, with increased pulse and blood pressure, in anticipation of some stressful incident, such as bad news, an upsetting sight, or a painful procedure. Immediately following the stressful occurrence, there is a precipitous drop in sympathetic tone, pulse and blood pressure,causing the victim to fall down or lose consciousness. Transient bradycardia and few clonic limb jerks may accompany vasovagal syncope.

From the CDC review, updated June 28, 2011

Reports to VAERS Following Gardasil®
As of June 22, 2011, approximately 35 million doses of Gardasil® were distributed in the U.S. and VAERS received a total of 18,727 reports of adverse events following Gardasil® vaccination: 17,958 reports among females and 346 reports for males, of which 285 reports were received after the vaccine was licensed for males in October 2009. VAERS has received 423 reports were of unknown gender. Of the total number of VAERS reports following Gardasil®, 92% were considered to be non-serious, and 8% were considered serious.*

Non-serious adverse event reports
VAERS defines non-serious adverse events as those other than hospitalization, death, permanent disability, or life-threatening illness.

The vast majority (92%) of the adverse events reports following Gardasil® vaccination have included fainting, pain, and swelling at the injection site (the arm), headache, nausea, and fever. Syncope (fainting) is common after injections and vaccinations, especially in adolescents. Falls after fainting may sometimes cause serious injuries, such as head injuries, which can be prevented by closely observing the person for 15 minutes after vaccination.

Serious adverse event reports
Any VAERS report that indicated hospitalization, permanent disability, life-threatening illness, congenital anomaly or death is classified as serious. As with all VAERS reports, serious events may or may not have been caused by the vaccine.

Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS)
Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS) has been reported after vaccination with Gardasil® . GBS is a rare neurologic disorder that causes muscle weakness. It occurs in 1-2 out of every 100,000 people in their teens. A number of infections have been associated with GBS. There has been no indication that Gardasil® increases the rate of GBS above the rate expected in the general population, whether or not they were vaccinated.

Blood Clots
There have been some reports of blood clots in females after receiving Gardasil®. These clots have occurred in the heart, lungs, and legs. Most of these people had a risk of getting blood clots, such as taking oral contraceptives (the birth control pill), smoking, obesity, and other risk factors.

"Deaths
As of June 22, 2011 there have been a total 68 VAERS reports of death among those who have received Gardasil® . There were 54 reports among females, 3 were among males, and 11 were reports of unknown gender. Thirty two of the total death reports have been confirmed and 36 remain unconfirmed due to no identifiable patient information in the report such as a name and contact information to confirm the report. A death report is confirmed (verified) after a medical doctor reviews the report and any associated records. In the 32 reports confirmed, there was no unusual pattern or clustering to the deaths that would suggest that they were caused by the vaccine and some reports indicated a cause of death unrelated to vaccination. "

96 posted on 07/28/2011 8:50:09 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org)(I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.)(RIAing))
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To: hocndoc; Proud_texan; RKBA Democrat; SamuraiScot; grey_whiskers; truthfreedom; isthisnickcool; ...
hocndoc: "See? you don't understand ...
First, remember that the Governor is the head of the Executive Branch,
charged by the citizens of Texas with overseeing the State Department of Health Services,
which had statutory authority to mandate vaccines (and still does,
other than this one vaccine, for which the Legislature wrote a special law).
The Governor irritated various special interests by ordering public education
on the vaccine and making the opt out process easier. "

You post falsehoods about politics
and are disingenuous about medicine.

Let us start with this. RINO Perry ordered a MANDATE.
RINO Perry was for statism. That was 2007:
In 2007, when Texas governor Rick Perry issued
an executive order that all girls entering the 6th grade
would receive Gardasil, parents were furious.
Some argued that the vaccine would promote promiscuity.
The order was eventually overturned."

" Critics rip Perry's vaccine mandate
Governor rejects opponents' calls to reverse order
AUSTIN - Gov. Rick Perry stood firm Monday against a political firestorm generated by his
order that sixth-grade girls be inoculated against a sexually transmitted virus linked to cervical cancer.
Social conservatives from Texas to Washington called on Perry to reverse his order making
Texas the first state to require the vaccine, saying the mandate makes sex seem permissible
and that parents should be the ones to decide whether to immunize their daughters.
And several Texas lawmakers expressed outrage at Perry for circumventing the legislative process. "

"RP65 - Relating to the immunization of young women
from the cancer-causing Human Papillomavirus.
Friday, February 02, 2007 o Executive Order
BY THE GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF TEXAS
Rules.The Health and Human Services Executive Commissioner
shall adopt rules that mandate the age appropriate vaccination
of all female children for HPV prior to admission to the sixth grade."

The definition of mandate is a command by a person,
group, or organization (the 'mandator') to another
(the 'mandatary') to act in a particular way, or here
to ingest, inject, imbed a poison or other substance
they do not want and for which informed consent was
never taken.


hocndoc: "Secondly, I wrote about the burden of repeat paps and
treatment for HPV changes and did not say that Paps, pelvic exams
and STD surveillance were not necessary.
However, since the admission that HPV causes 99.3% of all precancerous
and cancerous changes, the guidelines for first Pap and
for routine surveillance have changed. From the CDC: "

Trying to pull back on this? You brought this up in your post #80
and pointed out MONEY WOULD BE SAVED
by needing fewer PAPs. You implied such and posted,
"Consider the cost of one to two repeat paps immediately and then
the high risk that there are still changes present that are not yet detectable,
so the girl or woman must have a pap every 3 to 6 months ....
The financial cost is enormous... "
"


BOTTOM LINE:
Gardasil by RINO Mandate is wrong. Patients have rights, too.

Despite hocndoc's false statements, the equation for the NET Benefit of a medical treatment is
NET BENEFIT = (Risk with NO treatment)*(the net benefit of the treatment) - (The risk of harm).


This is NOT about Gardasil. It is about STATISM by RINOs.

FACT Despite hocndoc's false statements, the RINO Perry ordered Gardasil by MANDATE

Any Mandate for an untested drug by Executive Order
-or- any other variation of RomneyCARE or ObamaCARE
is outrageous.

That RINO Perry fought to keep HIS Mandate
(forget about the payoffs from Merck
or the stupidity of giving it to chaste children)
and that the RINO PerryBOTs attack anyone who
brings it up, shows you all are more interested
in STATISM than safety and honesty.

97 posted on 07/28/2011 12:03:53 PM PDT by Diogenesis (No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. - Mark Twain)
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