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hocndoc: "See? you don't understand ...
First, remember that the Governor is the head of the Executive Branch,
charged by the citizens of Texas with overseeing the State Department of Health Services,
which had statutory authority to mandate vaccines (and still does,
other than this one vaccine, for which the Legislature wrote a special law).
The Governor irritated various special interests by ordering public education
on the vaccine and making the opt out process easier. "

You post falsehoods about politics
and are disingenuous about medicine.

Let us start with this. RINO Perry ordered a MANDATE.
RINO Perry was for statism. That was 2007:
In 2007, when Texas governor Rick Perry issued
an executive order that all girls entering the 6th grade
would receive Gardasil, parents were furious.
Some argued that the vaccine would promote promiscuity.
The order was eventually overturned."

" Critics rip Perry's vaccine mandate
Governor rejects opponents' calls to reverse order
AUSTIN - Gov. Rick Perry stood firm Monday against a political firestorm generated by his
order that sixth-grade girls be inoculated against a sexually transmitted virus linked to cervical cancer.
Social conservatives from Texas to Washington called on Perry to reverse his order making
Texas the first state to require the vaccine, saying the mandate makes sex seem permissible
and that parents should be the ones to decide whether to immunize their daughters.
And several Texas lawmakers expressed outrage at Perry for circumventing the legislative process. "

"RP65 - Relating to the immunization of young women
from the cancer-causing Human Papillomavirus.
Friday, February 02, 2007 o Executive Order
BY THE GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF TEXAS
Rules.The Health and Human Services Executive Commissioner
shall adopt rules that mandate the age appropriate vaccination
of all female children for HPV prior to admission to the sixth grade."

The definition of mandate is a command by a person,
group, or organization (the 'mandator') to another
(the 'mandatary') to act in a particular way, or here
to ingest, inject, imbed a poison or other substance
they do not want and for which informed consent was
never taken.

hocndoc: "Secondly, I wrote about the burden of repeat paps and
treatment for HPV changes and did not say that Paps, pelvic exams
and STD surveillance were not necessary.
However, since the admission that HPV causes 99.3% of all precancerous
and cancerous changes, the guidelines for first Pap and
for routine surveillance have changed. From the CDC: "

Trying to pull back on this? You brought this up in your post #80
and pointed out MONEY WOULD BE SAVED
by needing fewer PAPs. You implied such and posted,
"Consider the cost of one to two repeat paps immediately and then
the high risk that there are still changes present that are not yet detectable,
so the girl or woman must have a pap every 3 to 6 months ....
The financial cost is enormous... ""

BOTTOM LINE:
Gardasil by RINO Mandate is wrong. Patients have rights, too.

Despite hocndoc's false statements, the equation for the NET Benefit of a medical treatment is
NET BENEFIT = (Risk with NO treatment)*(the net benefit of the treatment) - (The risk of harm).

This is NOT about Gardasil. It is about STATISM by RINOs.

FACT Despite hocndoc's false statements, the RINO Perry ordered Gardasil by MANDATE

Any Mandate for an untested drug by Executive Order
-or- any other variation of RomneyCARE or ObamaCARE
is outrageous.

That RINO Perry fought to keep HIS Mandate
(forget about the payoffs from Merck
or the stupidity of giving it to chaste children)
and that the RINO PerryBOTs attack anyone who
brings it up, shows you all are more interested
in STATISM than safety and honesty.

(Image being referenced explained below)

While on a church mission to the Phillipines a young man from here in Texas I know met a young lady. They fell in love and were recently married here in the US. She is a fantastic person. Both of them are.

Some bonehead convinced her to get this Guardasil garbage. Even though she was a virgin when they married and was unlikely to be with anyone else she got the vaccine. Since then she has had terrible headaches. She never had a headache before in her life.

They are a couple of great kids. Don't smoke, drink, do drugs and forget about tatooes and piercings. And they just got some great news, she is pregnant. So besides being morning sick she has these damn headaches. All of us are convinced that it is the Guardasil. All one has to do is google Guardasil and headaches to see there is a problem.

The issue here is that Perry, after THINKING about it, MANDATED via executive order that this crap be injected in to young Texan girls. Why? Because he is some fellow interested in the well being of these women? Hell no! Just like the TTC and just about ever damn thing Perry has done he is looking for money in the pocket or money down the road from someone like Cintra. It is no secret that Perry never expected to stay gov. so long. But he has. Why? Because he is some kind of uber-conservative? Another Ronald Reagan?

Nah! Perry is no conservative. The reason he has been re-elected is that he is the big douche running against turd sandwiches, borrow a line from South Park (and the image above).

Perry never expected to get this far in office. Because of this he was always looking for his dollars outside of politics. Why? Because the guy really has no major skills besides politics. He has become pretty good at the political thing with help but president? Rick Perry? Gads no. Unless? Unless? (Wait for it)... Unless he is once again the big douche running against the turd sandwich. That is what he is looking at. So if the candidates stay as they are today and "you know who" does not jump in then Perry will throw his hat, er, hair in the race. Because going against Obama will not be a lot fo work. Just like all of Perry's re-elections.

So, we may end up with a big douche for president. A douche like Perry but that is better than the turd sanwich in the White House now.

I can see how passionate your feelings are. However,conservative law and policy can't be based on feelings or personal dislike.

I don't post false political or medical information. In fact, my information is more complete than yours and has medical, not news or activist/blog references.

You quoted: hocndoc: "Secondly, I wrote about the burden of repeat paps and treatment for HPV changes and did not say that Paps, pelvic exams and STD surveillance were not necessary.

You missed the "repeat" before the comment about positive paps (at least 3 in the next year) in there and show no evidence that you understand the guidelines calling for less frequent and fewer lifetime paps. The "burden" is infertility due to treatment of the cervix and the psychological toll that the stress of diagnosis and the waiting, in addition to the potential life-time risk of the sequelae of the infection.