Posted on 07/24/2011 5:30:02 AM PDT by barmag25
OSLO, Norway -- The man blamed for attacks on Norway's government headquarters and a youth retreat that left at least 92 dead said he was motivated by a desire to bring about a revolution in Norwegian society, his lawyer said Sunday. A manifesto that he is believed to have written ranted against Muslim immigration to Europe and vowed revenge on "indigenous Europeans" who he accused of betraying their heritage.
Although lawyer for the 32-year-old Norwegian suspect, Anders Behring Breivik, said his client acted alone, police conducted raids on a garage and sheds in an industrial neighborhood of eastern Oslo, said police officer Kjell Bjerklund.
Survivors of the mass shooting on Utoya island that killed at least 85 young people reported seeing two assailants, and police have said they were looking into those accounts and had not ruled out a second suspect. Another seven people were killed in Friday's bombing in an Oslo government building.
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Yes, I’ve been a bit astonished at some of our swat teams too.
I don’t know about the kids defending themselves, too bad that gal from the Steig Larson books wasn’t there, she would have kicked his butt!
You are in Germany circa 1937. You know where one of the National Socialist retreats will be where future Nazi's are being indoctrinated.
What would you do?
Not that. I see what you are saying, but not that. Not even close.
I would still invest all my resources in taking out Hitler. I'm a 'root cause' type of guy. Understand the problem before firing off a solution.
The goal has long been to get a blond haired/blue eyed terrorist to be able to thwart any profiling efforts. Additionally if that terrorist can take out those unfriendly to Islamic imperialism (Saudi funded expansion of Islamic colonization of the West), it's a toofer.
His stated purpose and the end result of his actions don't match up.
The Telegraph denounced his actions also for speaking out against Marxism.
Millions upon millions dead in the 20th century alone because of Islamist wars and Communist rule yet the Left wants to subvert Western governance time and time again.
Similarly Barack Obama and Phelps’ cult claim to be Christians but I rebut their claims on Christianity at every turn I get.
There are words and there are actions. And their are uncomfortable quotes on record that get suppressed by a compliant media.
This terrorist was a nut job. But he will be used to smear all critics of Islamic imperialism (not the private practice of Islam, but the Saudi funded expansion of Islamic colonies in the West). Just as the Arizona shooter was used to smear the tea party.
Organizational ties and ideological similarities/differences don’t matter to the liberal media that runs with ONE talking point.
The witchhunt of Rupert Murdoch fell apart when other newspapers out of his ownings were similarly outted in the phone hacking scandal.
It is now being reported there was a security guard on the island but he was one of the first taken out by the killer along with one of the camp leaders who was on the ferry ride over with him and apparently was suspicious of him.
Stockton is truly the armpit of the central valley these days. We moved in 1991 and have never looked back.
Now think about Zero's personal Brownshirt Corps he's trying to get going. How long before some Leftist uses them to stage their own coupe. Or the TSA/HSA merger into a National Police Force under control of the Executive?
History shows us time and again how poisonous ideologies are never confronted in any meaningful way until after they are almost too powerful to overcome.
Germany's National Socialist movement didn't start out by tossing Jews into ovens. They started out just like this camp in Norway and in our very own Democrat party...
Let me say right out that I do not condone what was done. As for WHY it was done, that information I am still trying to suss out for myself...
Taking out the figurehead doesn’t kill the ideology. If you can discredit the ideology, the figurehead is easily disposed of.
Interestingly in the comments section at your link someone else had the same dark thought I had (albeit less succinctly and delphically phrased): this may not be the analog of the OKC Bombing, it may be the analog of the Pottawatomie Massacre.
"Germany's National Socialist movement didn't start out by tossing Jews into ovens. They started out just like this camp in Norway and in our very own Democrat party..."And let us be remind it, that we did not defeat Germany at the ballot box or at the UN stage. We defeated by killing more of them, including women and children, than they had the capacity or the willpower to kill us. We incinerated Hamburg and Dresden with their civilian population to force them into submission.
I do not like what the world is becoming.
Certain people start the Ideology. Without Hitler, no Nazis. Without Mohamed, no Islam. Without John Smith, no Mormonism.
Some people carry it on, like 0bama and Marxism, so he as figurehead isn't important.
“Islam creates the Timothy McVeighs of the world.”
Actually, radical Islam teamed up with McVeigh in the OKC bombing according to persuasive analysis by reporter Jayna Jones.
Here is a relevant quote from Jayna Daivis page documenting how AQ sought an alliance with McVeigh:
“Islamic sleeper agents in the U. S. are actively enlisting non-Arabs, non-Muslims, and disaffected Americans of all ethnicities to carry out future operations. These homegrown militants are known throughout the intelligence community as “lily white” recruits.
Jayna is arguably the first journalist to publicly document this merging, unholy alliance between polar opposite extremists. Her book exclusively features a classified prior warning that prognosticated in the spring of 1995 that an “Iran-sponsored Islamic attack” would likely take place on U.S. soil, executed by “domestic” operatives.”http://www.jaynadavis.com/highlights.html
“Here’s a clue for the clueless - Islam demands war against ALL non-Moslims.”
Check out my blog Hard Questions about Islam for one stop site for documentation about this threat. http://debatingislamquestionstoconsider.blogspot.com/
I happen to think Harry was uncommonly great for a Donk president.
“..will ultimately destroy their host’s cultures - what an unimaginable tragedy that would be.”
All of the great cathedrals, frescoes, art museums etc. will be destroyed. Muzzies think representational art - you know paintings of people, landscapes, still lifes etc. are evil. Could they be more backward?
Ahhh... ok. I think you're right.
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