Norway suspect ( snip) was a member of Nazi web forum

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[fso301]

Still, they said the maximum sentence for any crime is 21 years in jail- and he could walk out a free man before he's fifty

Well, with 90+ counts of murder, that's 90x21 = 1890 years if served sequentially..

[WKUHilltopper]

NAZIs are left wing—not too many steps behind Marxists. They love to try to classify Nazis as extreme “right wingers” and a sub-set of Conservatism. Is a BS fraud. The people writing these headlines have no clue what they parrot—only that they heard it before and write it without thinking it. Or perhaps, it is intentional.

When was the last time you ever heard Nazis screaming for “individual rights” and “a republican form of governments”? Even in an extreme context. NO—you’ll hear things like “the state is god and supreme”...hardly “right wing”.

[Ohioan]

The masses believe that Nazis were not only right-wing extremists, but that they were devout Christians. Both points are demonstrably false, obviously... but truth is in shrinking supply in our world.

Unfortunately, your statement is true; true because of one of the great lies of history. For a detailed refutation of that lie, see The Lies Of Socialism.

But what is both a red flag over this atrocity, and a poignant side note with respect to the Norwegian aspect, is the fact that it was a Norwegian Socialist, Quisling, who betrayed Norway into the hands of the German Socialists under Hitler, in 1940. His act of betrayal added a new word to European languages, a "Quisling," replacing Benedict Arnold as the proto-type traitor, on this side of the Atlantic.

Of course no one on the Right should imagine that this butcher was both one of us and sane. If he was, in fact, a Conservative, he was deranged. If he considered himself a Nazi and really wasn't an ideological Socialist, he was stupid & probably deranged. There is no way anyone in their right mind, with Conservative Christian principles, could go out and slaughter 80+ children. Yet I fear that those posters who predict that the Left will try to use this tragic event to further undermine the freedom of Western man, are entirely correct.

Once again, our vigilance & determination are required.

William Flax

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks RaceBannon.

• The Quislings of Norway

[Ohioan]

The pretense that the Nazis were on the right is indeed intentional. The reality is precisely as you have written.

The fact is completely obvious to anyone who looks at the matter seriously--from Hitler adopting much of Marx's techniques, to his shouting for a "Classless, casteless" Germany, at the 1934 Nuremberg rally, etc..

Again, see Lies Of Socialism for a detailed discussion of the point.

But unfortunately, the Leftist media, here and in Europe, can be expected to continue spreading the lie.

William Flax

[Marty62]

True, the weird thing about it is that FR is probably the only website that allows a diverse range of opinions. But the one thing that we all (hopefully) agree on is the Constitution of the United States of America.

[pabianice]

After all, Stormfront has raised money for Cindy Sheehan when she ran for congress.

"Storm Front" is a two-part episode (the 77th and 78th episodes) of the television series Star Trek: Enterprise, the first of the fourth season. It centers around an alternate history scenario in which Nazi Germany controls the northeast of the United States.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_Front_(Enterprise_episode)

[FlyingEagle]

Nationalist Socialist = Nazi

[livius]

He may be “labeled” as a “fundamentalist Christian,” but his own use of the term was consistent with Aryan Brotherhood use. “Christian” to them means somebody of Northern European extraction who has neither Jewish nor any other non-Northern European Protestant ancestors. It’s the press that has announced that he was a “fundamentalist Christian.” He himself simply listed it as his background.

It is more of an ethnic identifier and has nothing to do with the Christian faith or even with the religion practiced by the person in question, since he would probably have been in one of the neo-pagan cults similar to those that Hitler attemepted to establish. Hitler regarded Christianity as a slave religion or a “gutter religion,” following his spiritual mentor, Nietszche.

[patriot08]

From what the correspondent in Norway said, that’s the max he could get- 21 yrs.

[Steve Van Doorn]

as of 2010 he wasn't and didn't like Socialist Democrat whom he claimed were leftest.

He loved the free market and what i find really odd was his writings he is always polite and courteous. Has anyone that was out to kill masses of people ever been polite and courteous?

I personally believe one of two things is taking place here:
1. He changed a great deal in one year.
2. he is being set up

Here is a quote from Breivik:
"National Socialism has always been an extreme left ideology then why are they trying constantly to strategically place it on the right side?
If you hate capitalism and the free market, such as Marxists, Nazis and Islamists do, attained the left side, period."

[Moltke]

Tentatively I call this BS.

The guy was a Nazi...

a group monitoring far-right activity says.

Yeah right, we know those types. To them anyone to the right of Karl Marx is a "Nazi".

Nordisk, a web forum founded in 2007, describes itself as a portal on the theme of "the Nordic identity, culture and traditions".

Oh yeah, that sure sounds like a bunch of Nazis. They don't want to give up their culture to a loony bunch of multiculti freaks and muzzie colonists. Nazis!

And people just gobble this up as fact just to get away from the "Christian" characterization. Hmmm...

Perhaps it is true but I wouldn't take some commies' word for it. Need more info. I'm sure it will come in the next days and weeks.

[Elle Bee]

Nazis are Socialist Democrats

Nazis were never "Right Wing extremists"

[Elle Bee]

exactly

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[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Thanks.

[FreeAtlanta]

It isn't new. I didn't know until reading a recent post on Benjamin Netanyahu's brother, Yoni who was killed in the raid on Entebbe, that there was German radicals involved.

On 27 June 1976, Air France Flight 139, an Airbus A300 (Airbus A300B4-203), registration F-BVGG (c/n 019), originating from Tel Aviv, Israel, carrying 248 passengers and a crew of 12, took off from Athens, Greece, heading for Paris.[9][note 1] Soon after the 12:30 pm takeoff, the flight was hijacked by two Palestinians from the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine - External Operations (PFLP-EO) and two Germans from the German Revolutionary Cells—Wilfried Böse and Brigitte Kuhlmann. The hijackers diverted the flight to Benghazi, Libya.[10] There it was held on the ground for seven hours for refuelling, during which time a female hostage was released—who pretended to be having a miscarriage.[4] The plane left Benghazi, and at 3:15 pm on the 28th, more than 24 hours after the flight's original departure, it arrived at Entebbe Airport in Uganda.[10]"

The Nazi (Socialist) movement and Muslims have a long running affiliation. Maybe it stems from their shared hatred of Jews, or maybe love of strong thuggish goverment, who knows? Also, it is ironic that the two leftist groups (Nazi socialist) and Communist have both been at each others throats for so long (Germany vs. Russia, WWII).

Also, to note, Timothy McVeigh wasn't Christian, either. Science is my Religion and he possibly had connections to Muslim groups that helped him and his partner get their bombs to work. Janya Davis

Why? Maybe, they want an international race and religious war and both groups think they will come out on top. Or, more likely they are just totally insane.

[Steve Van Doorn]

I agree with you. you might want to read my post again. The accused bomber also agrees with us.

[redroller]

It really sounds like there had to be more than one guy shooting.

Even if every shot was aimed and lethal the guy still would have had to use three magazines on an AK and if he was firing the AK or whatever on full auto, then he'd be lucky to kill ten people with 30 shots, he'd have had to change magazines nine times and I can't believe those kids would have just stood there while that was going on.

[x]

Left and right of europe are different animals than in America anyway.

Very true.

Its pretty unlikely that an American right winger would find themselves to be very comfortable among european right wingers.

But here's the thing: he wasn't your standard garden-variety European Nazi (if he was a Nazi at all). He wasn't angry at Jews, but at Muslims, and some of the reading that influenced him came from our side of the pond, so it's complicated.

[montag813]

But you must not go down the same road as the stupid liberal/marxist agenda assigning a reason or blame for these terrible events.

Not asserting Athiests are inherently evil, nor meaning to insult you, sir. Merely drawing attention to the fact that the media - which seems bent on portraying this vile man as a "Christian Fundamentialist" - is not paying ANY attention thus far to his frequent, 2-year involvement in a Nazi website with 22,000 members (a huge membership for such a small nation). They have given more attention to a d-DAY old Facebook page.