It’s very hard to defend against an island kid camp and a bomb attack.
Say what you will, but this guy planned a well executed attack. I still find it hard to believe he got off the car attack and then the island attack alone.
But it’s possible that he did. If someone has some brains, a body count like this is possible.
“Norway police seek to charge 3 over bomb plot - report”
Whattya know. Muslims.
http://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idAFTRE7671YR20110708
Actually, a very small island like that should be easy to defend, so long as the need for defense is given due consideration.
What I was responding to is the reported ninety minute delay after law enforcement became aware of the island attack.
I do not know Norway’s emergency response structure, I would hope it is similar to Sweden, but would not presume so.
Ninety minutes is an eternity in such a situation, any country on earth should be able to summon a response faster than that.
From what I observe, the more “primitive” the society the faster their response to a similar attack would be.
In our overly “Civilized” society we have too many chiefs required to grant permission, hand out the weapons, coordinate the response, consult with lawyers, prepare the press release, etc.
In the “backward” regions a camp staffer would have just shot the SOB as soon as his intent became clear.
Or maybe one of the kids themselves, in some parts of the world that is still a possibility!
You write: It’s very hard to defend against an island kid camp and a bomb attack.
You don’t have a clue why he attacked this camp do you? First of, it wasn’t a bunch of kids learning about mother nature:
Utøya is owned by the political youth party Workers’ Youth League (Arbeidernes ungdomsfylking), which holds a summer camp there. The Workers’ Youth League (Bokmål: Arbeidernes Ungdomsfylking, Nynorsk: Arbeidaranes Ungdomsfylking, or AUF) is the youth organization affiliated with the Norwegian Labour Party. AUF was formed in April 1927, following the merger of Left Communist Youth League and Socialist Youth League of Norway.
Do you see the word Communist above?
Has anyone looked at a map? Utoya is over 12 hours north of Oslo. How was he seen right before the bombs 3 hours before the shootings started taking place? Were they remote detonated? Are they absolutely sure it was him there? How would he travel 12 hours in 3 hours?
Something doesn’t fit. He didn’t commit this terrorist act alone and the media is covering up who this guy is and what his goals were.
Why is a “anti-Muslim” “right-winger” (which I understand is different in Europe) be attacking white kids of the ruling Labor (Socialist) party? Because they pave the way for more immigration? Because they support and try to implement a more liberal country? And if he’s part of a neo-Nazi group.... which one? How do they know this?
So many questions and none of it makes sense.
Unless it was Timothy McVeigh again, attacking the government, to send a message, but didn’t McVeigh do this because he was angry about Waco? Why did Breivik have reason to attack these people? And why did he bomb the PM’s office on a day where there was almost no one there?
I am only as far as your post, but as I read along, I keep wondering about the timeline for this.
Has one come out yet? If he was seen in Oslo at the time of the bombing (one report suggested that?), how did he get to the island. It didn’t look that close on the map, and if it was 20 miles off the coast ~ boats/ferries don’t go all that fast!
Something seems off about the timing.