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More than 80 killed at youth camp - Police (Norway)
http://www.vg.no/ ^ | 22/7 2011

Posted on 07/22/2011 7:09:28 PM PDT by Eurotwit

Oslo Police having a press conference now.

Saying at least 80 kids have been massacred.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: breivik; massacre; norway; oslo
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To: Grumplestiltskin

Timothy McVeigh single handedly ruined the Animal Rights and Vegan movements with his exploits.


381 posted on 07/23/2011 12:05:33 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Eurotwit
The alleged shooter.


382 posted on 07/23/2011 12:07:29 AM PDT by ketelone
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To: xp38; All

Interesting and perhaps telling post from the perp at document.no:

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The problem is that it often does not help that about 80% of Muslims are “moderates”, ie they don’t follow the Quran literally. It takes very few people to overthrow a plane. What percentage are the Taliban of Pakistan’s population? 1%, 3%, 5%? And how much chaos is there today?

In every society where Islam exists there will be a certain percentage of Muslims who actually follow the traditional interpretations of the Quran. And then we have to consider the relationship between fundamentalist Muslims and so-called “moderate Muslims”.

There are ‘moderate’ Nazis, too, who do not support the gassing of Jews. But they’re still Nazis: they will only sit and watch, if and when the fundamentalist Nazis strike. Do we then accept ‘moderate’ Nazis, just so long as they distance themselves from the gassing of Jews?

We already have a similar situation with Marxists who have infiltrated culture, media and educational organizations. These individuals are tolerated and even work as professors and lecturers at colleges / universities, They are thus able to spread their propaganda.

To me it is the height of hypocrisy to treat Muslims, Nazis and Marxists differently. They are all supporters of hate-ideologies. Not all Muslims, Nazis and Marxists are fundamentalist, most are ‘moderate’. But does this matter? A ‘moderate’ Nazi may, after having experienced fraud, say, switch to being fundamentalist. A ‘moderate’ Muslim can, likewise, after being refused entry to a club, become a fundamentalist.

It should be obvious that ‘moderate’ supporters of hate-ideologies, at any later date can readily select fundamentalism. Consider:

Islam has historically led to 300 million deaths
Communism has historically led to 100 million deaths
Nazism has historically led to 6-20 million deaths

ALL these hate ideologies should be treated equally.

Unquote (from http://www.document.no/ - in Norwegian.

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....makes you wonder just what the trigger was that set off his own descent into fundamentalist, hate-fuelled ideology and action?


383 posted on 07/23/2011 12:09:40 AM PDT by Zajko (Never wrestle with a pig. You'll both get dirty, but the pig likes it.)
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To: Elendur

Yes, MEMRI is a good site. I will check it out again.

Didn’t see the “Iranian minister, BRAGGING about how they got away with lying about their nuclear program for years.”

Excellent.

If the attack was fortold by Muslim groups then it seems the suspect is trying to hide.


384 posted on 07/23/2011 12:12:41 AM PDT by garjog
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To: Eurotwit

This is beyond bearing for so many families. May God comfort them in ways only He knows. And, may He strengthen Norway in this time of national tragedy.


385 posted on 07/23/2011 12:14:43 AM PDT by WVNan
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To: nuconvert

Looks like the has alpha Hitler stache on his chin.


386 posted on 07/23/2011 1:39:06 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper ("Don't Call My Bluff")
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To: Eurotwit

Are guns forbidden in Norway?


387 posted on 07/23/2011 3:25:16 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Recovering_Democrat

No. He legally owned 2 guns.


388 posted on 07/23/2011 4:09:42 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Elendur
this is very confusing, with seemingly deliberate misinformation. it doesn’t add up at all.

I agree..it doesn't. Too many loose ends. Why were his facebook and tweeter "set up" just days beforehand, which would appear he was certainly expecting some degree of investigation.....Why yell out "This is only the Beginning"...the beginning of what?

389 posted on 07/23/2011 4:56:15 AM PDT by caww
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To: VirginiaMom

Children? They were young adults aged 16 to 22 and very much into hard line Socialism:

Utøya is owned by the political youth party Workers’ Youth League (Arbeidernes ungdomsfylking), which holds a summer camp there.

The Workers’ Youth League (Bokmål: Arbeidernes Ungdomsfylking, Nynorsk: Arbeidaranes Ungdomsfylking, or AUF) is the youth organization affiliated with the Norwegian Labour Party. AUF was formed in April 1927, following the merger of Left Communist Youth League and Socialist Youth League of Norway. Its ideology is social democracy and democratic socialism.


390 posted on 07/23/2011 4:59:41 AM PDT by macquire
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To: Niuhuru

You write: Oh those poor babies.

As horrible as this crime was, they weren’t “babies”. They were young adults aged 16 to 22. They were also there because they were politically active in the Communist/Socialist “Worker’s Youth League” of Norway. This Communist/Socialist group has owned the Island since 1927. Sounds like this young Norwegian didn’t take a liking to Communism. This is just one in a long line of bloody events between Capitalists and Communists.


391 posted on 07/23/2011 5:05:36 AM PDT by macquire
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To: Elendur
Six tones is a huge amount of fertilizer....some believe his company was a front in order to not raise suspicion for the material he ordered.

Breivik bought six tons of fertilizers in may
-We responded that he had a lot of fertilizers in the garage, said neighbors told Dagbladet. Read more

http://www.microsofttranslator.com/BV.aspx?ref=IE8Activity&a=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dagbladet.no%2F2011%2F07%2F23%2Fnyheter%2Fterror%2Finnenriks%2Futoya%2F17426381%2F

392 posted on 07/23/2011 5:08:16 AM PDT by caww
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To: macquire
This is just one in a long line of bloody events between Capitalists and Communists.

Interesting observation given the disclosure that he had recently unsuccessfully tried to start several businesses.

393 posted on 07/23/2011 5:08:29 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: Elendur
your posts have been very clear, and add a lot of details i haven’t seen elsewhere.

Some are from Norw. others here in the states etc. Also journalists are tweeting as they get information on this...but again...dust needs to settle.

394 posted on 07/23/2011 5:14:20 AM PDT by caww
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Such unique circumstances... he dressed as a police man and yelled for everyone to come to him... they were also trapped on an island with the water litterally to their back.

it was a perfect storm for the shooter :(


395 posted on 07/23/2011 5:23:39 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: RC one

I have been AMAZED that since 9-11 the rag heads haven’t been doing this all over America. You don’t need a plane, you just need one man and a plan, and a little money.


396 posted on 07/23/2011 5:31:44 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Rambo had nothing on this Norwegian.

This Norwegian had incredible skills. He put together a powerful car bomb and we have seen how hard that is from Times Square and London. To top that off he planted another bomb high up in a nearby building and timed it to go off when the first responders were on scene dealing with the first device. That takes a high degree of expertise and coordination. Only a highly trained demo man could pull this off. But that is of course not all. He then drove 40 miles, got in a boat, talked his way into a camp in a disguise and killed 87 people with small arms. Somehow, at some point, whether earlier or during this evolution, he also planted a third bomb on the island but that one was discovered and disarmed.

This would make James Bond green with envy.

The skills necessary for a bombmaker are generally different from those of a shooter. This one guy was a one man Army. Or so we are told less than 8 hours after action.

One lone “madman” with a “minor” criminal record...

I ain’t buying it.


397 posted on 07/23/2011 5:33:30 AM PDT by LSUfan
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To: LSUfan

he had served in the military.


398 posted on 07/23/2011 5:44:06 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

So, he served in the military. I did too and I couldn’t have pulled off all the planning and technical requirements needed for such a sophisticated attack. The military uses teams to conduct operations. This guy did all the planning, preparation and execution by himself?


399 posted on 07/23/2011 5:48:22 AM PDT by LSUfan
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To: Bullish

You are correct. My question should have been

When does the USA start their war on Jesus?
But that leads to the same conclusion, It has already started.

How long before Christians are rounded up and persecuted by the USA federal gov?


400 posted on 07/23/2011 5:53:50 AM PDT by winodog
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