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Modern Poverty Includes A.C. and an Xbox
national review ^ | July 18, 2011 | Ken McIntyre

Posted on 07/19/2011 7:22:58 AM PDT by kiki04

When Americans think of poverty, we tend to picture people who can’t adequately shelter, clothe, and feed themselves or their families.

When the Census Bureau defines “poverty,” though, it winds up painting more than 40 million Americans — one in seven — as “poor.”

Census officials continue to grossly exaggerate the numbers of the poor, creating a false picture in the public mind of widespread material deprivation, writes Heritage Foundation senior research fellow Robert Rector in a new paper.

“Most news stories on poverty feature homeless families, people living in crumbling shacks, or lines of the downtrodden eating in soup kitchens,” Rector says. “The actual living conditions of America’s poor are far different from these images.”

Congress is tying itself in knots figuring out how to cut spending and bring down a $14 trillion national debt. Lawmakers might well take a much closer look at the nearly a trillion dollars spent each year on welfare even though many recipients aren’t what the typical American would recognize as poor and in need of government assistance.

What is poverty? Americans might well be surprised to learn from other government data that the overwhelming majority of those defined as “poor” by the Census Bureau were well-housed and adequately fed even in the recession year 2009. About 4 percent of them did temporarily become homeless.

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To: Verbosus

Alot of interesting facts.
BOOKMARK for reference!


41 posted on 07/19/2011 9:12:04 AM PDT by MarineMom613 (RIP Sandra Sue, my fur baby 12/31/1999 ~ 7/2/2010 - See you on the other side!)
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To: Straight Vermonter
Nice. Love that quote. I think I'll put it on my FaceBook status.
My Mom was wise beyond her young years when she went to be with the Lord. She grounded her kids in conservative principles before it was even a topic of discussion. Oh, she died when she was 31, March 1959.
42 posted on 07/19/2011 9:14:02 AM PDT by svcw (democrats are liars, it's a given)
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To: Verbosus

Alot of interesting facts.
BOOKMARK for reference!


43 posted on 07/19/2011 9:19:15 AM PDT by MarineMom613 (RIP Sandra Sue, my fur baby 12/31/1999 ~ 7/2/2010 - See you on the other side!)
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To: Pan_Yan

I am with you. We are consignment sales/second hand stores for clothes, and are trying hard to teach the kids the value of money. I’m just upset our system allows for the “poor” to have more, at no expense to them, than the working class.


44 posted on 07/19/2011 9:37:37 AM PDT by kiki04 ("If a little knowledge is dangerous, where is a man who has so much as to be out of danger?" - THH)
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To: kcvl

“Luxuries for Leaches” Program


45 posted on 07/19/2011 9:39:21 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: lwd

I know, it’s always couched as “for the children” but there is plenty of private charity that will take care of the truly needy.

If we forced people to take responsibility for the numerous children they choose to have without any intention of providing for the children themselves I think the problem would solve itself.

I see people buying a cart or two of EBT groceries, a cart of beer and ciggies with cash and then separating out the milk and cheese and whipping out one of those freaking WIC checks every time I go to Wal Mart. Which always takes another 5 minutes to fill out. It’s sickening.


46 posted on 07/19/2011 9:44:32 AM PDT by GatorGirl (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: BlatherNaut

Good luck figuring out what “poverty” means at the Census Bureau...

http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/methods/definitions.html

Whatever they want it to mean it seems...


47 posted on 07/19/2011 10:34:01 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: AD from SpringBay
It is amazing how comfortable those on welfare can be. That is the reason people won’t better themselves - they have enough and then some for free.

What is it that they need to improve? I mean, think about this for a second: they got housing, food, cell phones, free schooling, free breakfast, lunch and dinner (and often during NON-school months), free health care, free daycare to "look for a job" HA/HA - AND ALL THE FREE TIME TO ENJOY THESE ITEMS, BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE TO GO TO WORK!!!

How do you "improve" on THAT lot in life? What could they do to "improve" that existence? WHY would they even want to try?
48 posted on 07/19/2011 10:38:13 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: kcvl

I see what you mean.

“Absolute vs. relative thresholds”, “average monthly poverty”, “episodic poverty”, etc. etc. etc... It’s too painful to attempt to decipher, and likely impossible anyway, LOL.

“Definitions
...”Absolute thresholds are fixed at a point in time and updated solely for price changes.... In contrast, relative thresholds, as commonly defined, are developed by reference to the actual expenditures (or income) of the population.”

http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/methods/definitions.html


49 posted on 07/19/2011 10:49:04 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Pan_Yan

>>They will be good employees,<<

If that’s your measurement you need a sit down, a serious talking to about teaching entrepreneurial skills to your kids. The freedoms and financial benefits far outweigh being a number on a payroll list.


50 posted on 07/19/2011 11:02:40 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: lwd
The friggin bread lines are forming and no one wants to acknowledge it.

Even WORSE...people are fighting to get to the front of the line and then bragging about being there! These people are PROUD of the fact that they got their welfare! And if you question a single one of them: You are a racist! You hate the poor! You want small children to die! You are a bigot!

WTF?!?!? It is MY money, I have a damn right to see where it goes, how it is distributed and ensure it is well spent!
51 posted on 07/19/2011 11:15:01 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: kiki04
We make a decent living, but are frugal. I ran into another class mom shopping for school clothes. She is a single mom, doesn't work. She had cash and was buying her son $90 sneakers. I just left payless with my kids. I asked if she had gone to walmart yet to get supplies, and she told me hers were covered by the school. All her kids have cell phones and nintendo DS's. I had to tell my girls we could not buy them a DS for their birthday, because they are too expensive. Just got me a little miffed.

Perhaps you should attend school with your children so that you can learn how to properly write and spell.

52 posted on 07/19/2011 11:32:59 AM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: B4Ranch

Let me clarify. What they choose to be is up to them, and having a servant’s heart is biblical whether you are self employed or an employee of someone else.


53 posted on 07/19/2011 12:34:53 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes
Perhaps you should attend school with your children so that you can learn how to properly write and spell.

Wow. Are you that nasty to people you meet at work or is it just reserved for the Internet?

54 posted on 07/19/2011 12:38:33 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan

True, but in the days to come being an employee of someone else will mean slave to someone else.


55 posted on 07/19/2011 1:18:07 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: Pan_Yan

You must be a hateful conservative. I noticed that the government-educated doofus splits infinitives real good.


56 posted on 07/19/2011 1:31:32 PM PDT by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: FourPeas

We have a separate freezer, but it’s not a luxury item, it saves money. It allows me to keep deer and fish in bulk for us to eat inexpensively later. It also means that when the market has an out-of-season half-price turkey sale I can get four of them.


57 posted on 07/19/2011 2:06:40 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: frogjerk

2 Blackberries and not a job between the husband or wife.

Ain’t life grand!!!!


58 posted on 07/19/2011 3:20:50 PM PDT by Mrs. Frogjerk
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To: kiki04

My blood pressure went up by simply reading your post! Arghhhhh!


59 posted on 07/19/2011 3:22:41 PM PDT by Mrs. Frogjerk
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To: Truth is a Weapon

You just described(Fat ass and all!) what my husband and I see everyday right across the street from us!

Our neighbors(very loose description) have 4 kids and NOBODY is working! Yet the husband and wife both own Blackberry’s, each child has a DS, they have direct TV and yes the wife is so fat that she can barely walk to the corner to meet the youngest child getting off the school bus. They are living off of food stamps, and what is left of his “unemployment checks(running out shortly)”. The husband is trying to find some way to scam the system and go on disability so that they can go back to his native Ecuador and live well off of it! I didn’t know that being a lazy bum that sits on the couch drinking and smoking all day(who is paying for that?) was a disability!

They have somebody paying their utilities as well! The only reason the bum husband doesn’t work is due to pure laziness! He has hemorrhoids(reason for disability-not kidding) for crying out loud. If that doesn’t tell you that you need to get off your ass I don’t know what would!


60 posted on 07/19/2011 3:36:26 PM PDT by Mrs. Frogjerk
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