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To: Cvengr
John 8:57-58 (57) Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? (58) Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

That makes G-d out to be a liar...G-d forbid.

Deuteronomy 4:35 You were shown these things so that you might know that the LORD is God; besides him there is no other.

Deuteronomy 4:39 Acknowledge and take to heart this day that the LORD is God in heaven above and on the earth below. There is no other.

1 Kings 8:60 so that all the peoples of the earth may know that the LORD is God and that there is no other.

Isaiah 44:8 Do not tremble, do not be afraid. Did I not proclaim this and foretell it long ago? You are my witnesses. Is there any God besides me? No, there is no other Rock; I know not one.”

Isaiah 45:5 I am the LORD, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God.

Isaiah 45:6 so that from the rising of the sun to the place of its setting people may know there is none besides me. I am the LORD, and there is no other.

Isaiah 45:18 For this is what the LORD says— he who created the heavens, he is God; he who fashioned and made the earth, he founded it; he did not create it to be empty, but formed it to be inhabited— he says: “I am the LORD, and there is no other.

Isaiah 45:22 “Turn to me and be saved, all you ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other.

Isaiah 46:9 Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me.

Joel 2:27 Then you will know that I am in Israel, that I am the LORD your God, and that there is no other; never again will my people be shamed.

How many times does G-d have to tell you. He is alone...no other...none like Him...no other Rock...no other Savior. Over and over again. But Christianity insists on making another...worshiping another.

Deut 4:12 the LORD spoke to you out of the fire. You heard the sound of words but saw no form; there was only a voice. 13 He declared to you his covenant, the Ten Commandments, which he commanded you to follow and then wrote them on two stone tablets. 14 And the LORD directed me at that time to teach you the decrees and laws you are to follow in the land that you are crossing the Jordan to possess.

15 You saw no form of any kind the day the LORD spoke to you at Horeb out of the fire. Therefore watch yourselves very carefully, 16 so that you do not become corrupt and make for yourselves an idol, an image of any shape, whether formed like a man or a woman,

G-d has NO FORM...you give him a form....G-d has NO SHAPE....you give him one. That is 100% heresy...

96 posted on 07/11/2011 11:24:46 PM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: blasater1960

Congratulations! You have studied Jewish scripture and proven that there is, was and will always be one God and shown through many examples the clearly spelled out message of monotheism - one God, no intermediaries, no helpers, no translators, no intercessors, no split shifts, no messengers, no relatives, no hanging out in human or animal or plant bodily form. He does not desire us to shrink our conception of him to one of human form. Just because we are created in the image of God does not mean that we have to reverse engineer God into human form.


98 posted on 07/12/2011 1:15:31 AM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now (From 1963 Congressional Record http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm)
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To: blasater1960

Same God. No heresy.

In order to understand, do not relinquish your love for God, but remember your love for Him is to be a sacrificial love, not an adversarial reproaching judgment of what He provides.

God Bless.


105 posted on 07/12/2011 4:29:18 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: blasater1960
I offer you post #116 in reply.
117 posted on 07/12/2011 9:45:44 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: blasater1960; Cvengr

“Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.” Isaiah 7:14

“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.” Isaiah 9:6

God was prophesied to come as God in flesh(or to have human “form”) at some date. To deny that truth is to deny being Jewish for Jews and to deny being a Christian for Christians.

The point of debate between Christians and Jews is whether or not God has already come in the flesh or if God is still yet to do so in the future. If Christ was (and is) God in Flesh, he would have been correct to say “Before Abraham was, I AM”. If God has yet to reveal himself as God in Flesh, he will still be correct in referring to himself as “I AM” in the same manner.

Immanuel means “God with us”.

Who do you think the Psalmist was referring to when he quotes God the Father as saying”Thou art my beloved Son, this day have I Begotten thee!”?

So even OT scripture proves that God at some date takes on a “form” as a real man; the debate between Christians and Jews is really about when this occurred or when it shall occur!


145 posted on 07/17/2011 3:20:05 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Applied Christianity;a study in spiritual fiber optics connecting God's love to man!)
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