Posted on 07/09/2011 10:06:40 AM PDT by ejdrapes
Bachmann Stands By Marriage Pact That Links Slavery to Black Family Values Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann is standing firm behind a pledge she signed Thursday that promotes marriage and social conservative values, but includes a passage that suggests black families were in better shape during slavery. The Family Leader, an Iowa-based conservative group led by Bob Vander Plaats, issued the pledge formally called, "The Marriage Vow – A Declaration of Dependence Upon Marriage and Family." The two page document condemns gay marriage, abortion, pornography and infidelity. But perhaps the most controversial part is found in the preamble where the state of the black family in the slave era is compared to today. "Slavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an African-American baby born after the election of the USA's first African-American President," the document reads. Click here to read the document.
By Stephen Clark
Published July 09, 2011
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
And my ancestors left behind the flag, and politics, and Gaelic tongue to take whatever employment they could find -usually working for the police— or for the Army —or as professional fighters-their women taking in other peoples laundry.But unlike the undocumented Democrats from down south of the Border we were not ashamed to become Americans,by earning it.
I think its because she brings it on herself.
The Lexington and John Wayne things were statements she made without being asked about it. The pledge is something she signed, so either she read it and agreed with it or she didnt read it but signed it anyway to bolster her credentials.
And we have different things we want in a candidate than the dems do. They dont care that he doesnt know history, geography, or military lingo. We do.
You are right.
The libs keep up the slavery issue, but the real attack on the African-American family is the systemic killing of their unborn (abortion). It is unbelievable that 50% of their pregnancies in Ney York City end in abortion.
Talk about poor treatment!
There are countless ways she could have gotten her point across.
One could take that as meaning that Blacks were somehow better off as slaves, than they are with a leader of their own race.
I doubt that conservative Blacks would come to such an interpretation, but, all one has to do it look at one video of a Walmart mega sale to see the stampeding herd mentality and the low self-esteem of a great many Blacks. Whites can be that way too, but this was directed at Blacks.
Remember, perception becomes reality. She certainly didn’t mean this as a slight against Blacks, but I believe that MANY with perceive that it was and the MSM will help the race card along on this just like they do on everything else.
Perhaps this was another Rollins idea.....
The point is that slavery did not destroy the black family, as liberals often claim. What destroyed the black family were policies and practices that occurred sometime after 1965 or so. Guess which ones?
It could have been a stupid move, or it could turn out to be a brilliant move. Force the debate now, get her arguments out there, and everyone will have decided by the time the primaries start.
The statement reveals that slavery was evil, but social engineering is more evil. The fact that socialism is more evil in no way minimizes the fact that slavery is evil. Sadly, the slave population has been moved from one plantation on to another, the government plantation, which is ultimately even more destructive. Socialism makes everyone slaves; at first a kinder gentler slavery, but eventually cruel and nihilistic.
I read the document that was linked in as the footnote to support the slave thing, and the earliest data that document references is from 1880. In the pledge, there is absolutely nothing statistical to prove the position on slavery vs today.
Referencing someone else’s opinion is not a way to prove a statement.
Yes, they were treated better just like a rancher takes care of his herd.
But America was the largest market for slaves and therefore the root cause of the majority of those injustices.
There was NOTHING GOOD that resulted from the enslavement of the Black man and I challenge anyone on this site or elsewhere to publicly proclaim otherwise. Expose yourselves.
Bachmann is pretty but stupid. And ignorant of history, like many on both sides of the divide.
People whose first reaction is how politically incorrect a statement is disgust me. Slavery was disastrous and a monstrous evil, but a black family suffering under its yoke was less likely to be broken up than in the environment created by their own leaders.
It is an accurate observation, and you people who are allowing the hyperventilating leftists any credibility on this are as much part of the problem as they are. The implication is your own. If there is any racism it is hanging around your own neck.
No -- what I said, was that Michele Bachmann revealed a dreadful lack of political savvy by signing this badly composed pledge. I also said that the statement itself is accurate.
As many others on the thread have commented, the statement could have been composed in such a way as to state the truth without giving the enemy something to attack us with.
Five generations ago, some of my own ancestors were slaves. In my lifetime, I've witnessed the destructive effects of government interference with the black family from the inside. The pledge writers could have made their point much better, had they pointed to the policies of FDR and LBJ, which are most responsible for the demise of the black family in America.
What is inaccurate is that it might not even be true at all because children of slaves were also slaves that could be bought and sold. Families were often broken up and sold separately. I guess the children, up to a certain age, traded with their mothers, but the fathers could be sold at any time.
Do you have any statistics to back up your claim?
I’ve done a lot of research and I don’t think this statement is fully true, or if it is by pure numbers and stats, it is highly misleading.
Slave women had no rights over their own bodies. They were routinely raped by their masters, their masters’ relatives, and others. They were also paired up with their masters’ choices for mating, on the basis of breeding as if for animals. This should not count as a voluntary 2-parent home. These people were not free. On occasion slaves were allowed to marry their own choices. Not always.
So even if by the numbers the two parent homes were higher in slavery, these people were not necessarily together by choice and their children were not theirs to raise anyway.
It is a very stupid thing to sign off on.
I can't believe anyone thinks this is avoidable. The left accused Sarah Palin of a conspiracy involving her daughter and son. They will make stuff up. Trying to please them will lose far more votes from the right than any candidate will ever pick up from the left.
The most dangerous place in America is in the womb, and if the womb happens to be black your chance of survival is low, your chance of survival and being raised by your mother and father is a long-shot. One was better off in the womb of a slave than in the womb of a black woman in this socialist run country with a planned parenthood down the block. You may loath slavery, and you should, but you should despise the socialist genocidal plantation even more.
As frequently as benefited the owner, which was as often as they chose it to be. As well their mates were often chosen for them in breeding programs...
Yeah, they were a lot better off all right.
“People whose first reaction is how politically incorrect a statement is disgust me. Slavery was disastrous and a monstrous evil, but a black family suffering under its yoke was less likely to be broken up than in the environment created by their own leaders.”
You are dead wrong. Slaves had no right to stay together as families, and very very few could.
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