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Bachmann Stands By Marriage Pact That Links Slavery to Black Family Values
Fox News ^ | July 9, 2011 | Stephen Clark

Posted on 07/09/2011 10:06:40 AM PDT by ejdrapes

Bachmann Stands By Marriage Pact That Links Slavery to Black Family Values
By Stephen Clark
Published July 09, 2011

Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann is standing firm behind a pledge she signed Thursday that promotes marriage and social conservative values, but includes a passage that suggests black families were in better shape during slavery.

The Family Leader, an Iowa-based conservative group led by Bob Vander Plaats, issued the pledge formally called, "The Marriage Vow – A Declaration of Dependence Upon Marriage and Family."

The two page document condemns gay marriage, abortion, pornography and infidelity. But perhaps the most controversial part is found in the preamble where the state of the black family in the slave era is compared to today.

"Slavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an African-American baby born after the election of the USA's first African-American President," the document reads.

Click here to read the document.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bachmann; bachmann4obama; fascism; marriagevow; slavery
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To: RINOs suck
Williams point is that dependency to a government is even worse than dependency to a private party.
41 posted on 07/09/2011 10:45:09 AM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: The Pack Knight
I think its even stupider to marry a guy that lisps.

The minute people get a load of that guy she's all done.

42 posted on 07/09/2011 10:45:13 AM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Balding_Eagle
In the late 1800’s, early 1900’s, black were most likely to be Bible believing Southern Baptists.

Most blacks are still very religious.

43 posted on 07/09/2011 10:45:45 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: dusttoyou
There was no need in including that statement in this pledge. Bachmann signing was ill-considered

What a load of crap. Black conservatives have been making similar points for years:

http://jpetrie.myweb.uga.edu/sowell.html

"The assumption that spending more of the taxpayers’ money will make things better has survived all kinds of evidence that it has made things worse. The black family—which survived slavery, discrimination, poverty, wars and depressions—began to come apart as the federal government moved in with its well-financed programs to 'help.'"

44 posted on 07/09/2011 10:46:31 AM PDT by RINOs suck
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To: Mariner
And to allude that blacks were better off, in any way, under slavery...borders on racism, at least.

Under slavery they were unlikely to die from starvation or malnutrition, unlike blacks in many areas of Africa today. Black males were also less likely to die from violence than inner city USA blacks or African blacks today.

If saying so is racist, then so be it.

45 posted on 07/09/2011 10:47:43 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In the land of the pigs, the butcher is king.)
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To: RINOs suck
You're citing a comment by Williams as a referenced fact?

Do you believe that Black families were somehow better off under slavery, or that there was more marriage and two-parent households?

I suggest NO such data exists.

46 posted on 07/09/2011 10:48:00 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: ejdrapes

Given that headline and the stupid interview of her on Fox news Sunday can there be any doubt that Fox might be “republican” but it sure as all hell is NOT conservative.


47 posted on 07/09/2011 10:50:22 AM PDT by Grunthor (Support a POTUS candidate but don't get emotionally invested like a liberal.)
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To: PapaBear3625
"Under slavery they were unlikely to die from starvation or malnutrition, unlike blacks in many areas of Africa today. Black males were also less likely to die from violence than inner city USA blacks or African blacks today."

Ever heard of a slave ship? Were those people more, or less likely to die from malnutrition? Disease?

You believe when those people were captured they were under less threat of violence than inner city blacks today?

48 posted on 07/09/2011 10:51:35 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Brilliant

They cannot refute the truth of the statement,, so they screech and bully anyone from saying it. Sadly,,,, many here are content to let the left decide what may not even be discussed.

But they know they CANNOT win if the discussion literally becomes, “were black children more likely to grow up in a 2 parent home during the nightmare of slavery,,, or under progressive America?”

So they forbid it from being discussed. And many are happy to do what they say. Im personally not a big Bachmann fan,,, but she didn’t do anything wrong here.


49 posted on 07/09/2011 10:51:35 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: wastedyears

Exactly it’s not politically correct. I’m sick of PC politicians like most who are in DC.


50 posted on 07/09/2011 10:52:54 AM PDT by ejdrapes (Can we keep our attacks focused on the real enemy: Obama)
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To: ejdrapes

This is why you should never sign a pledge.


51 posted on 07/09/2011 10:54:10 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Brilliant
As usual, the libs don’t want to hear anyone tell the truth.Apparently some conservatives don't either. Guess they're worried about the precious "independents".
52 posted on 07/09/2011 10:56:17 AM PDT by ejdrapes (Can we keep our attacks focused on the real enemy: Obama)
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To: ejdrapes
"Slavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an African-American baby born after the election of the USA's first African-American President," the document reads.

If I am reading the above statement correctly, then it implies that a child born a slave of a 2 parent family is/was better off than a child born free to a single mother. Am I reading that correctly?

53 posted on 07/09/2011 10:56:28 AM PDT by TaxPayer2000 (The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government,)
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To: RobbyS

“Williams point is that dependency to a government is even worse than dependency to a private party.”

Which coincidentally, also was PRECISELY the point of the statement contained in the document she signed onto as agreeing with.


54 posted on 07/09/2011 10:57:38 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Mariner

Slaves were treated no better in the Yankee Ports—eh?
They were treated no better in Africa when they were taken as captive and traded for rum —or for guns by their Muslim kin? As far as is stated the document is true is it not?


55 posted on 07/09/2011 10:58:02 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: Balding_Eagle

I dont think it is accurate. None of the slaves were born into houselholds. And where are the statistics that show what percentage of slave babies were raised by their birth parents vs. today’s stats?


56 posted on 07/09/2011 10:58:21 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: ejdrapes

The truth is radical. That is the truth.

Would have been better to chose the wording of the segregation era, though as there is a lot of published data on Black families from that era. Blacks had lower crime and did better in school during the segregation era, too. They had to behave civilly because whites did not put up with the excuse and hate industry of today’s “diversity” Black racism that the communists have installed. Back then, the black elite understood freedom to be the constitutional freedom of self determination that whites had.

Self destruction through hate and projection is the name of the “freedom” game now. The global socialists are the new care takers - like China a workers’ paradise.


57 posted on 07/09/2011 10:58:45 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Windflier

Ah so it’s not about principle but making sure you do nothing the MSM can smear you with. If this derails Bachmann (and Santorum who also signed it) then so be it.


58 posted on 07/09/2011 10:59:12 AM PDT by ejdrapes (Can we keep our attacks focused on the real enemy: Obama)
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To: Mariner
Ever heard of a slave ship? Were those people more, or less likely to die from malnutrition? Disease?

I'm talking about slaves once they were in the US.

59 posted on 07/09/2011 10:59:54 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In the land of the pigs, the butcher is king.)
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To: RINOs suck

All this story proves, taken to its logical conclution is that this Stephen Clark and Fox News are attacking Bachmann, and that Bachmann probably fell into a trap set for any candidate who was so incautious to sign the pledge, which was probably carefully written and worded by a democrat mole.


60 posted on 07/09/2011 11:02:15 AM PDT by ngat
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