Christian Right Accused of Sexism Over Lack of Enthusiasm for Bachmann

Christian Post ^ | July 7, 2011 | Napp Nazworth

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Christian Right leaders are not rallying behind Michele Bachmann for president and it’s “probably” because they are sexist, contends a writer for Time.

.....“Totally unfair and inaccurate” is how Penny Nance, CEO of Concerned Women for America, described [Amy] Sullivan's characterization. Nance was invited to join the conference call but was unable to do so.

“Social conservatives are ready for a woman president,” Nance said. “In fact, the McCain campaign really took off,” added Nance, “after Sarah Palin was nominated.”

Nance remembered that during the 2008 election she was mostly standing on the sidelines until Palin was added to the ticket. Then, she began volunteering for McCain and she has many friends that did the same. Palin “was a woman they identified with,” Nance said.

Regarding a Perry candidacy, Nance said, “It's still very early” and “it's good for the country to have lots of choices.”

While Perry has a good relationship with social conservatives, they have not always seen eye to eye. In 2007, Perry proposed requiring all school-aged girls to receive the HPV vaccine. Concerned Women for America was one of the groups that thought that the vaccine should carry an opt-in provision, in which parents would sign their kids up to receive the free vaccination, rather than Perry's proposed opt-out provision, in which all female school children would automatically receive the vaccine unless their parents explicitly requested that they not receive the vaccine.

Ann Hettinger, Concerned Women for America's state director of Texas, was instrumental in convincing Perry to change his proposal to an opt-in provision. When asked if Perry's original plans for the HPV vaccine would be an issue if he were to run for president, Nance replied, “It would've been an issue if he had not fixed it.”

[xzins]

I have no doubt that Merck pushed their product in order to make money. I’d be surprised if they didn’t use every ad trick in the business.

I’d also suggest that our knowledge of certain diseases becomes greater as time goes on, but that they are met with a level of public panic when they reach a certain level of public awareness.

That happened with HPV, and Perry wasn’t the only American who was pontificating.

It just strikes me that everyone needs a chance to grow into new situations, and that when they do they should then be held responsible if they persist in forcing old understandings.

That’s why the voluntary status of the immunization is extremely relevant.

[wagglebee]

I agree completely.

However, as you noted, your data was about girls whose mothers had HPV.

As far as married women, that is different in that we are talking about adult women deciding for themselves what to do.

The fact is that NOBODY knows what the effects of Gardasil are a decade or so out. This drug is given to young women at a time when their reproductive systems are developing. NOBODY can say that there won't be problems in a decade when they want to have children.

Additionally, I worry that this vaccine may give a lot of young women a false sense of security. Keep in mind that STD rates among young people didn't really begin to skyrocket until AFTER everyone started talking about condoms and "safe sex."

[DJ MacWoW]

I don’t mind the vaccine being voluntary. What I object to is the scare tactics used to market it. They are less than truthful.

[xzins]

Thanks for the link. I’ll continue to check it out.

There is still the other issue: males can be unwitting carriers for years, and their female partners, even in a monogamous marriage can be infected.

That doesn’t exhonerate the male, but it does suggest that using a vaccine does not mean a young lady is being given a green light to be promiscuous.

[xzins]

Those are all good points, wagglebee.

[Diogenesis]

High risk genital papillomavirus infections are not spread vertically
Dillner J.1, *, 2; Andersson-Ellström A.3; Hagmar B.4; Schiller J.5
Reviews in Medical Virology, Volume 9, Number 1, March 1999 , pp. 23-29(7)
Abstract: ... The conclusions arrived at can be summarised as:
(1) There is overwhelming epidemiological evidence that
the only quantitatively important mode of transmission of infection
with oncogenic genital HPV types is sexual.
(2) There is also evidence that benign genital HPV types
can be transmitted sexually, but the epidemiological data
on the benign virus types are less extensive and less clear.
(3) Perinatal HPV transmission is unequivocally demonstrated
only for the rare disease juvenile respiratory papillomatosis.

[xzins]

Scare tactics is the way the anthrax vaccine was sold. IIRC, it was projected at some effectiveness less than 25% or so. But, the generals figured it was better to have 25% of an army than no army.

Thank God we didn’t get to find out.

[wagglebee]

Tell me how many are not? How many years have you been locked in your room with no contact with the outside world?

You have no clue what you are talking about, but congratulations on your use of the "FReepers are shut-ins theme." What leftist website did you get that from.

I see that your daughter died and I'm sorry, that is tragic and I don't doubt that you wish something could have been done to save her and MAYBE Gardasil would have. Nevertheless, the FACT is that the overwhelming majority of women go through life without contracting an STD, much less dying from one.

[truthfreedom]

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/special/07/legislature/4535418.html
Perry’s vaccination order still stoking fires

AUSTIN — Blowback continued at the Capitol on Wednesday over Gov. Rick Perry’s order mandating
that schoolgirls be vaccinated against a sexually transmitted disease linked to cervical cancer.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/special/07/legislature/4528909.html

Critics rip Perry’s vaccine mandate
Governor rejects opponents’ calls to reverse order

AUSTIN — Gov. Rick Perry stood firm Monday against a political firestorm generated by his
order that sixth-grade girls be inoculated against a sexually transmitted virus linked to cervical cancer.

Social conservatives from Texas to Washington called on Perry to reverse his order making
Texas the first state to require the vaccine, saying the mandate makes sex seem permissible
and that parents should be the ones to decide whether to immunize their daughters.
And several Texas lawmakers expressed outrage at Perry for circumventing the legislative process.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/26/us/26texas.html

The vaccine, Gardasil, is manufactured by Merck, which was represented in Austin by the
lobbyist Mike Toomey, who was chief of staff for Mr. Perry from 2002 to 2004.

[DJ MacWoW]

Thank God we didn’t get to find out.

I second that!

[Politicalmom]

1) This vaccine was NOT the province of government. It was NOT a disease which could be passed by students sitting next to each other in class.

2) I don’t want another power-mad president who thinks that his little pet projects can be imposed by fiat.

[wagglebee]

I have no doubt that Merck pushed their product in order to make money. I’d be surprised if they didn’t use every ad trick in the business.

I remember all of the Tell Someone" ads that were on TV a couple years ago. They had all of the required disclaimers, but the uninformed viewer is left with the impression that this was essentially a cure for cervical cancer.

[truthfreedom]

I would happily vote for Bachmann, knowing that I’ll be entertained as we go to a crashing defeat. I vote based on how good a President I think they’d be and she’s still my 3rd choice on that basis. I’m taking a 2nd look at Santorum.

Downsides
Bachmann - has gay issues that would hurt
Santorum - has gay issues that could hurt. Picked Specter over Toomey.
Palin - picked McCain over Hayworth. picked Perry over his opponents

One bad pick dooms Santorum? Palin made 2 (at least). Who cares, doesn’t really matter.

Santorum does deserve a 2nd look. He has a MBA and a JD.
(A lot of em do, actually) Solid, state great, but not elite schools. If 100% Socon, in the case of Bachmann, can be tea party, so can Santorum.

If an awful globalist like Perry can pretend to be tea party, so can Santorum, Pawlenty, Johnson and a whole bunch of em. Maybe even Gingrich, but that might be too much.

Gingrich can say, though, very sincerely, and accurately, that the Contract with America was the 1994 version of the 2010 tea party.

[truthfreedom]

Vaccines are for infectious diseases that don’t involve sex.
Airborne infectious agents, diseases that can spread rapidly to a population.

HPV is not this. Is the goverment going to take a position on every single vaccine that comes down the pike?

Unless Texas schools are a non stop orgy, there won’t be a HPV outbreak.

The government should not be involved in the decision of whether to get gardasil.

[Nextrush]

Perry was pushing mandatory HPV vaccination for girls to attend school.

[little jeremiah]

FYI - Perry, Gardasil, etc.

[Nextrush]

I noticed the word “mandating” in your post.

Perry wasn’t pushing “voluntary” vaccination.

[DJ MacWoW]

Yes. I can also post and hang two thoughts together without being profane and insulting. This is FR, not DU.