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To: MestaMachine; Joe Brower; Travis McGee; marktwain; Larry Lucido
This is international. NOTHING this big happens without full knowledge of, and permission from, the whitehouse. NOTHING. obama signed off on this. There is no way the DOJ or ATF could have done this on their own, let alome apprropriate money from other government agencies.

Ding, ding, ding.

We were wondering how high this went. I'm wondering (given the new info that funds transferred between departments) if the answer MUST be Obama.

As the quoted poster points out, how else would money migrate from one cabinet agency to another?

That's actually not a rhetorical question, as I'm not an expert on government machinations. Here's what I'm wondering:

Is there any means for a significant sum of money to be taken from one agency and given to another without the executive (i.e. Obama) having any knowledge?

I'd love to know the answer to that.

70 posted on 07/06/2011 4:35:19 PM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: AAABEST

The only government agency that I am aware of that can legally receive transfers of funds from any other agency is the CIA and that was done by an act of Congress. Other than that, every transfer of funds from one agency to another is on the surface, at least, illegal...unless approved by the president which would be an executive order and would REQUIRE his signature.


85 posted on 07/06/2011 4:54:56 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Sarah Palin is the mirror by which evil reflects back upon itself until consumed out of existence)
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To: AAABEST
Is there any means for a significant sum of money to be taken from one agency and given to another without the executive (i.e. Obama) having any knowledge?

Depends on what you mean by "significant." While I was in the Air Force, there were times I spent Army or Navy money, and vice versa. However, in all cases it was within the law, and was done by agreement between the respective Commands. So long as it complied with the reason for the appropriation, it didn't need to go higher than the Commands involved.

In the case in question, it doesn't appear that money was transferred between agencies. Instead, FBI money was given to Mexicans to buy guns, and the ATF tried to track the guns (at least that's their story) without knowing the money came from the FBI.

237 posted on 07/08/2011 5:10:42 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. A primer on armed revolt. Available form Amazon.)
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