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To: Wonder Warthog
And I'm offering what "could" be acceptable approaches INSTEAD OF the "Dream Act." Just because someone happens to disagree with your position doesn't mean they "live in a dream world".

Acceptble to whom? You are an amnesty supporter. Do you also support in-state tution for illegals? It is easy to be compassionate and generous with other people's money. Conservative estimates place the costs of illegal immigration at $113 billion and that only includes education, incarceration, and health care costs.

Where is the sense of fairness for American children who may lose places in universities due to illegals? The vast majority of illegals are minorities entitled to such things as affirmative action. Read the article below about the real world where I live.

University Insiders: Illegal Immigrants Get Affirmative Action

As to the rest of your post, you're not telling me anything I don't already know. I probably know as much about the immigration situation as you,

Don't flatter yourself. This issue is my fulltime passion 24/7 365 days of the year. I am involved legislatively and with other immigration organizations like NumbersUSA, CIS, FAIR, and the Tea Party movement. I will match my knowledege with yours anytime. People who really know the issue don't make statements like yours.

50 posted on 07/06/2011 11:57:30 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
"Acceptble to whom? You are an amnesty supporter."

Sure am, of a very specific and limited nature. And stop trying to put words in my mouth with all the rest of your blatherings.

"Don't flatter yourself. This issue is my fulltime passion 24/7 365 days of the year. I am involved legislatively and with other immigration organizations like NumbersUSA, CIS, FAIR, and the Tea Party movement. I will match my knowledege with yours anytime. People who really know the issue don't make statements like yours.

I think the non-fanatics just might. But obviously you ARE a fanatic, and intelligent discussion isn't possible.

Again, you have raised NO point that I didn't already know about. I just happen to have a different opinion on a very narrowly defined issue, specifically, that children brought here with no say in the matter who have demonstrated the potentiality to be "good citizens" (this includes, IMO, the category of permanent residency), should be allowed to remain.

51 posted on 07/06/2011 1:04:40 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: kabar

I’m a native Arizonan and living on the front line, so to speak. I have seen what illegal immigration is doing to our country. There are so many groups (Open Borders, Big Business, Socialists) who have a vested interest in flooding us with another culture, language, and tearing down our borders. We need to close our borders, establish English as the official language and start deporting every illegal as fast as we can. Even the kids who grow up here and seem like they have assimilated will end up doing all they can to get highly educated and join in the fight to keep everything open. California has fallen and Arizona is close on its heels. I’m starting to feel like an alien in my own state and it’s getting worse, not better. We need to get tough now, before it’s too late.


53 posted on 07/08/2011 11:48:55 PM PDT by reclaimamerica
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