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Seven babies aborted because of cleft palate (last year in the UK)
The Telegraph ^ | 7/4/11

Posted on 07/04/2011 6:25:39 AM PDT by markomalley

The data was among newly released statistics showing the number of late abortions which was made public after a High Court ruling.

No late abortions were carried out for cleft palate but the figures showed seven pregnancies were terminated before 24 weeks for that reason.

There were 147 terminations carried out after the 24 weeks gestation period.

Abortion is legal in the first 24 weeks of pregnancy for disability reasons but also if the pregnancy poses a risk to the mother's mental health.

After 24 weeks, an abortion is allowed only if there is substantial risk of 'serious' physical or mental abnormality, or the mother's life is in danger.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: abortion; moralabsolutes; prolife
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Apparently the above is illustrative of a crime worthy of the death penalty.

May God have mercy on us.

1 posted on 07/04/2011 6:25:45 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: wagglebee; little jeremiah

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2 posted on 07/04/2011 6:26:59 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good-Pope Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley
hunh. back in the day, they would just fix that when the child was born. My cousin, for example. He's done real well for himself, too.

Guess times have changed.

How long, O Lord?

3 posted on 07/04/2011 6:31:00 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Lovers ARE fighters)
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To: markomalley

Sick! I have a nephew who was born with a cleft palate. A few surgeries and he was good as new.


4 posted on 07/04/2011 6:51:33 AM PDT by newzjunkey (It's sick out there and getting sicker. — Bob Grant)
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To: the invisib1e hand
> hunh. back in the day, they would just fix that when the child was born. My cousin, for example. He's done real well for himself, too. Guess times have changed.

I would hope not; if anything, the situation should be better now, not worse.

Repaired soon after birth, a cleft palate is not a disability or even a significant problem in attractiveness. There may be associated problems with functions like hearing due to the internal effects, which may be correctable as well. It boggles my mind that a cleft palate would be seen as justification for abortion.

My beautiful daughter, who is now almost 18, was born with a serious nasal defect (choanal atresia) which is sometimes associated with heart defects and even mental retardation. We dealt with the effects when she was an infant (the defect prevented her from breathing through her right nostril, and was a real mess at times), for a few years until she could undergo surgery, and then had it corrected. Fortunately, no other related problems developed, and she has grown into a wonderful, intelligent young woman, who just graduated high school with high honors.

If she had a cleft palate, we would have proceeded to deal with it as well.

I simply cannot conceive of anyone deciding that a congenital defect of these sorts would have been grounds for killing her in utero. The thought horrifies me.

5 posted on 07/04/2011 6:59:26 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: markomalley

My Father-in Law had a cleft palate. It was repaired so well that you couldn’t even hardly see the scar. He went on to develop dozens of wheat varieties dozens of years ago that are exciting in that they will hold up to and survive various diseases, fungus, and climactic conditions right now, and in the future. That’s right, he accurately predicted the conditions that farmers would be dealing with, long ago. He did so without the aid of computers.

But oh well! Guess he should have been aborted. Can’t be an inconvenience. No ugly babies allowed here! We’re smarter than in the old days when people cared!

/sarcasm off


6 posted on 07/04/2011 7:06:08 AM PDT by yellow rubber ducky (Am I still living in Bizarro world?)
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To: dayglored
Good on you.
7 posted on 07/04/2011 7:16:54 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Lovers ARE fighters)
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To: the invisib1e hand; markomalley

I recently had the pleasure of working with a young man who, because of the shape of his lip and the scar, I would reasonably guess was born with a cleft palate.

He’s a bright, hard working man who I have no doubt will have a very successful career. And his wife, who is fairly pretty, doesn’t seemed bothered by it.

What is being said to manipulate these women? If what the other posts say is true and modern surgery can minimize the problem further this is really sad.


8 posted on 07/04/2011 7:17:14 AM PDT by PrincessB (Drill Baby Drill.)
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To: markomalley

Operation Smile and Smile Train advertise that they can do surgeries in the Third World to fix this defect for a few hundred dollars per child, and there are pictures of toddlers and elementary aged children alive with the condition. How then is it somehow impossible for parents in the First world to fix or live with for a few months or years until the child is old enough to fix?


9 posted on 07/04/2011 7:28:31 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: PrincessB
> If what the other posts say is true and modern surgery can minimize the problem further this is really sad.

More than just sad, it presages a return to the horrors of eugenics.

While it's understandable that every woman would like her baby to be "perfect", killing babies to eliminate the non-perfect ones is morally reprehensible. The reality is that we all fall short of perfection.

10 posted on 07/04/2011 7:29:13 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: markomalley

Shame ,Cleft palate is no big deal nowadays.


11 posted on 07/04/2011 7:35:27 AM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: markomalley

Slippery Slope Alert


12 posted on 07/04/2011 7:36:26 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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13 posted on 07/04/2011 9:14:53 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: dayglored

Thank you for your post.
My son is unborn and about 3 months from delivery.
The sonogram shows a cleft lip.
The doctors kept insisting that we do amniocentesis to see if there is a chromosome problem.
There are no other indicators that there is any problem with this baby.
We have no genetic history of this, and two healthy and beautiful children ages 7 and 5.
I told the doctor no we aren’t taking the test.
We will love him until the day he dies or we die, but we aren’t going to kill him.
They admitted everything else looks good and the lip can easily be repaired.
I am horrified that people would decide these children aren’t worth it. And that is an understatement.
We believe he is going to be just fine, but will have to go through some surgeries.
That is just part of taking care of your kids as far as I’m concerned.
Anyway his name is Reagan, and im asking fellow freepers to please keep him in your prayers.


14 posted on 07/04/2011 9:36:13 AM PDT by Clump (the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: tbw2
How then is it somehow impossible for parents in the First world to fix or live with for a few months or years until the child is old enough to fix?

The answer is, it is CHEAPER for the government to pay for an abortion than the surgeries to repair the defect. Remember, the story takes place in the UK.

That said, I know that many babies with cleft lipt are aborted in the US, but our abortion laws are so screwed up that THE so-called "moms" don't really need an excuse to abort their babies!

15 posted on 07/04/2011 10:17:22 AM PDT by Former Fetus
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To: Clump

God bless you. Prayers are on the way.


16 posted on 07/04/2011 10:19:26 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: markomalley

The women’s hospital in Pittsburgh has carried out abortions for this reason, and I’m willing to bet the number exceeds 7. Yet, where I work, we repair cleft lips & palates routinely & the kids do just fine. We’ve sunk so low as a society that some parents aren’t willing to accept anything less than the “perfect child”. Soulless idiots.


17 posted on 07/04/2011 10:35:26 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: Clump

May God bless you, your family, and your new son!!!


18 posted on 07/04/2011 10:37:05 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: PrincessB

Please see my post (14) and feel free to pass it along here.
I would love prayer and encouragement.
Thanks


19 posted on 07/04/2011 10:39:14 AM PDT by Clump (the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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Horrifying.


20 posted on 07/04/2011 10:39:31 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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