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“They cannot even keep drugs out of prison, so what is the point?”

The point is drugs cause violent crimes.

Read this study titled The Criminal Mind: How Drugs and Violence May Affect the Brain

http://healthland.time.com/2011/06/10/the-criminal-mind-how-drugs-and-violence-may-affect-the-brain/

I haven’t heard many conservatives for legalization and ending the war on drugs strategizing plans on what we should do with the current violence or more violence that most likely will be created as a result.

Liberals create policies and laws without forethought not conservatives.

Some crime facts for you:

"Approximately 170 murders were committed in the Netherlands in 2010, a slight decrease from 2009."

http://www.denhaag.nl/de/to/Population-of-The-Hague-rising.htm

That works out to a murder rate of just over 1 per 100,000 population. Compare that to the US murder rate of 5 per 100,000.

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm

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Record low murder rate once again

2 January 2008

AMSTERDAM - 147 murders were committed in the Netherlands last year, one fewer than in 2006 and therefore a record low, according to the annual report from Elsevier.

http://www.expatica.com/nl/news/local_news/Record-low-murder-rate-once-again_1276.html

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Let's look at Amsterdam:

"In Amsterdam the number of murders decreased from 32 in 2009 to 16 in 2010..."

http://www.denhaag.nl/de/to/Population-of-The-Hague-rising.htm

With a population of 730,000, that works out to a murder rate of 2.2/100,000. For comparison, San Jose is one of the safest cities in the US. According to city-data.com, its murder rate for 2009 was 2.9/100,000.

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Back to the drawing board, Mr. Drug Counselor.

The point is drugs cause violent crimes.

Actually prohibition causes alot more violence than drugs ever could. I am not saying drugs are good, but our efforts to curtail them have been a total failure. Plus we get the negatives of prohibition: loss of constitutional rights, corruption of police, politicians and judges, violence by police against innocent citizens.

Drugs aren't good, but the drug war is much worse. Heck I saw a thread here today where a cop who was name Officer of the Year in Florida last year has been caught dealing meth over the last two years. And our prisons have 5 times as many people in prison as 30 years ago and it has not had any noticeable effect on drug use.

As the Federal Government goes into bankruptcy over the next few years, the war will end anyway due to lack of funds.

The problem with the drug war is that it is a moral crusade backed by fear mongering and emotion. No rational people would pursue such a futile endeavor, but it will have to be some future generation that straightens our country, the current ones are clueless and have no idea the problems our overspending and becoming the world's largest prison will cause future generations.