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To: Kevmo
I can have no objection to the observations. I was not there, and did not see it. So I have no way of knowing what the experimenters saw. what they have reported about what they observed has left just a few open questions.

My objection is that the explanations that they provide fro what they observe are are complete and utter HS. They would fill the Paris sewers to brimming. There is not a wit of proper scientific reasoning in the whole lot of it.

My second objection is, if the 14,000 observations are true the rather lemming like quality of the work of those 14,000 independent researchers all repeating more or less the same thing without any refinement or improvement of instrumentation to make measurements that would cast some insight into what the underlying processes are. And none of them have done that, after the 14,000 experiments heaped one on top of the other. In most branches of science you don't get very far by doing nothing more than just repeating the last guys work. You have to do something new, and if 14,000 really smart folks were to put their minds to this problem we would either have convincing evidence that it was going on along with convincing understanding of the underlying mechanisms. But here we have 14,000 mindless gradgrinds slaving away claiming to see what the last person saw. The claim that 14,000 repeated it is worse than claiming that it never happened.

And then while you are trying to claim that folks have seen all sorts of nuclear effects we have these vaunted so-called theorists trying to explain why they don't see what you insist they do see.

It is you and your fellow charlatans who cannot get your story straight and until you do I have every right to call you the fraud that you are, and certainly every right to believe none of it.

And until I see proper evidence backed up by proper physics based explanations I have every right to call all of you and your kind a pack of damn liars.

128 posted on 07/04/2011 9:14:09 PM PDT by AndyJackson (u)
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To: AndyJackson

I can have no objection to the observations.
***Then you are the one who’s the damned liar here. It is obvious that you know much of the physics, and therefore you know that those 14,000 observations are in direct contradiction of modern “laws” of physics. Therefore, any theory that explains the direct contradiction will directly contradict some current holding of modern physics.

You are the charlatan here.


130 posted on 07/04/2011 11:26:16 PM PDT by Kevmo (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: AndyJackson; All; y'all; et al

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how you wave 13,900 orders of magnitude away with just a few words and some invective. Of course, the principle that is being considered is within 100 orders of magnitude of what is considered reality, so that would mean we should expect 145 more times invective to counteract what is being waved off. This is a perfect example of what Christ meant when he said that such Pharisees strain at a gnat but swallow a camel.


134 posted on 07/06/2011 9:03:00 PM PDT by Kevmo (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. ~Ronald Reagan)
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