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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

I get what you’re saying, but apparently you don’t get what I’m saying. Cops have rights as well and one of those rights is the right to go home at the end of his shift.

Is the concept of a cop having the right to go home at the end of his shift pass by above your head?

I do understand that some Freepers don’t like the police and think that dead police is just the price they should pay for being a cop, I get that.

I just simply disagree.

I do think that people should be able to publicly film arrests, but the police have the right to take reasonable precautions to ensure their safety and the safety of those around them, because not everybody plays as nice as Freepers do and the cops don’t always know who will play nice and who will not.


96 posted on 06/27/2011 4:25:02 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30

>> “Cops have rights as well and one of those rights is the right to go home at the end of his shift.” <<

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Nothing but emotional rhetoric.

The biggest threat to the cop’s “right to go home at the end of his shift” is the cop’s own thuggish behavior.

(No cop hater either, my circle of friends contains lots of cops, and DAs)


99 posted on 06/27/2011 4:30:42 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: Jonty30

“Is the concept of a cop having the right to go home at the end of his shift pass by above your head?

I do understand that some Freepers don’t like the police and think that dead police is just the price they should pay for being a cop, I get that.”

Why don’t you quit with the idiotic “straw man” arguments?

Just because a cop wants to go home safe means he gets to issue unlawful orders, and order people to do whatever strikes his fancy. Do you seriously not understand that?

The prosecutor determined that no crime was committed, and that the arrest was false. Why are you having such a hard time accepting that?

Are you arguing with that, and saying she should have been arrested because the cop “said so”?

You are making no logical point whatsoever.

Until you comprehend that this was a wrongful arrest, please don’t waste my time posting to me.


101 posted on 06/27/2011 4:31:35 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Dear Lord, Please judge Barack Hussein Obama for betraying Israel, and not the whole nation. Amen.)
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To: Jonty30

There were several people standing around watching the event.
One person had a video camera.
The jack boot singled her out and said he did not feel comfortable.
He said she should go in her house.
He seemed to have no problem with the other observers.


107 posted on 06/27/2011 4:42:56 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Proud to be a (small) monthly donor.)
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To: Jonty30

Citizens also have the right to go home at night. They also have the right to peaceable assemble (have not heard that one in a long time).

Cops do not have superior right of the citizens. They do however have the responsibility to protect those citizen rights.


115 posted on 06/27/2011 5:09:00 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought ("The proposition that the government is always right is manifested either in corruption or benefits)
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To: Jonty30
>>>Cops have rights as well and one of those rights is the right to go home at the end of his shift.<<<

Show me a case of a police officer who was killed by an iPod and I will change my mind.

Of course, police can take reasonable precautions, but he took unreasonable precautions. Actually, his claim that he was taking “precautions” seems totally disingenuous. He clearly wasn't afraid of the woman, he just used that as an excuse to try to order her into her home, so she couldn't video tape him. His only “fear” was the fear of being held accountable for his actions.

There were at least 2 other officers dealing with the one suspect from the traffic stop, and the man they pulled over was presenting no resistance at all. He could have asked one of his fellow officers to keep an eye on her, if he was truly concerned.

If he truly was afraid of a woman with an iPod, standing on her own property, then this officer is so timid and cowardly, that he ought to take up a less stressful profession, like flower arranging or interior decorating.

Also, the incompetent bully turned his back on the real suspect to go after the innocent citizen, exercising her rights, on her own property.

I am very, pro law enforcement, but idiots like this guy have no place in law enforcement and good cops unfairly get bad reputations because of foolish bullies like him.

195 posted on 06/28/2011 7:36:33 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: Jonty30

You have an inflated idea of the risks that police have. Very few police officers die in any given year. Certainly fewer per capita than firemen, or crab fishers.

Second, their desire does not give them unlimited rights to violate the rights. They are limited by law and by reasonableness.

Third a hand filled with a camera can not simultaneously operate a firearm. The camera is a reduced threat of violence, not an increased hazard.

The camera is a risk if you are a bad cop intent on violating people’s rights. The cops kind of self select for attention on that, as we have seen.


289 posted on 06/29/2011 7:53:14 AM PDT by donmeaker (I)
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