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To: DoughtyOne
Yes, its up thread.

It wouldn't surprise me at all to see a dem poll fudge numbers in McCain's favor. He's their guy, after all.

But back to endorsements... here are some conservatives who endorsed McCain in 2010:

"It's an honor to serve with my friend John McCain in the United States Senate and I believe he is the right man at the right time to represent Arizona's conservative values in Washington," said Senate Republican Whip Jon Kyl in a statement.

Reps. Jeff Flake, Trent Franks and John Shadegg also added their support in the statement released by the McCain campaign.

Flake is surprising because he was seen as the best conservative challenger to McCain.

197 posted on 06/27/2011 6:05:13 PM PDT by rintense (The GOP elite & friends can pound sand.)
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To: rintense
Yes, its up thread.  If I missed this up thread, then I appologize.  It was not intentional to infer that you hadn't provided it, if you had.  I would encourage you to post a link to where you did, to clarify the matter.  If I missed it, that should be clear to people.

It wouldn't surprise me at all to see a dem poll fudge numbers in McCain's favor. He's their guy, after all.

Okay, but if you'll take note, McCain's negatives were huge.  45% of them thought he was doing a bad job, compared to 40% thinking Hayworth would do a bad job.  McCain's favorables were 44% vs Haywroth's 37%.  Now that may have resulted in not everyone knowing who Hayworth was.  His name recognition in the state was only 75%.  I guess that's not totally unreasonable, considering his own districts constituents would be the ones likely to know him.  McCains numbers added up to 89%.  Hayworths only added up to 77%.

When I read figures from a suspect source, I try to look at the numbers to see if they have been jobed.  If it looks like they have, I will dismiss them altogether.  This liberally sourced data, didn't look to have been jobed, since McCain's negatives were so prominent.  I didn't know the source, so I did take a look at the numbers before I linked them.

But back to endorsements... here are some conservatives who endorsed McCain in 2010:

Okay.  Thank you.  And after thanking you, I'm going to have to appologize to you somewhat.  It's fair for you to list these people as Conservatives, because they have been represented that way, so this isn't directed towards you.  I still have a hard time thinking these folks are true informed Conservatives.  And I'm afraid my take on someone else would be close to this.

"It's an honor to serve with my friend John McCain in the United States Senate and I believe he is the right man at the right time to represent Arizona's conservative values in Washington," said Senate Republican Whip Jon Kyl in a statement.

Reps. Jeff Flake, Trent Franks and John Shadegg also added their support in the statement released by the McCain campaign.

Flake is surprising because he was seen as the best conservative challenger to McCain.

From your description, my take would be similar.

It took me some time to look up that information about McCain.  I'm just a duffer looking for information.  I didn't realize there was a wealth of it out there, to the degree that it was.

It seemed to me, that it wouldn't take all that much time to begin to develop a serious concern for who he really was, and who he had always been.

I don't think this is entirely unfair.  I think we all have to do our due dilligence.  I don't see that having taken place.

I know it seems like I'm the hammer on this issue.  In truth, I can understand in part how this took place.  I can't dimiss all of it.  There was way too much of a wealth of information out there IMO.



200 posted on 06/27/2011 7:05:17 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Muslim Brotherhood (renames itself) the Liberty and Justice Party. NOT A JOKE.)
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