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...just as some hacks did with J. D. Hayworth.

Hayworth destroyed himself. How he could even contemplate running for office in the Tea Party era, knowing full well that the government money informercial was out there, c'mon. Hmmm, but there was nothing out there about John McCain right? Look, I don't like that infomercial either. Does it come even close to touching the tops of McCain's shoe soles, as related to lifetime of B. S. McCain was hip deep in? Of course not. http://www.hotr.us/mccain/mccainagain.html When you make statements like this, you infer that you know nothing of McCain's history. You act as if this one bad mistake on Hayworth's part disqualfiies him, while the absolute mountain of McCain's well thought out mis-steps meant nothing. That's not just silly, it's about as destructive to a view of your own personal political savvy as it gets.

And Bachmann is starting to take the same kind of path. Yes, in your mind I'm sure she is. DirtBoy, come on guy, you're killin' yourself here.

She has to know full well that a disclosure form is out there saying she got money from that farm - a simple denial just isn't going to cut it. The LA Times article came out yesterday, but you're convinced that Bachmann has destroyed herself because she has not responded as of this moment. Wow. I may be the only person out here who thinks this way, but you're placing an awful lot of faith in the LA Times here, and absolutely non in Bachmann. I think that speaks for itself.

But go ahead, blame the critics with Bachmann just like you're blaming JD's self-immolation on the critics. What you describe as self-immolation, just cracks me up. Hayworth self-destructed, and by contrast McCain was pristine as the driven snow. Seriously DirtBoy, you know better than that.

End result will be the same. Sounds to me as if you're praying nightly for it. Sad...

Hayworth self-destructed, and by contrast McCain was pristine as the driven snow.

Debate is pointless with you on this. Where did I say McCain was pure as the driven snow? I didn't. But Hayworth was a poor choice to take him on. The informercial was just the final nail in the coffin - and it started with the Abramoff scandal, which, contrary to the opinions of some, was a real issue with real stink, and that stink was all over Hayworth.

You don't appeal to replace a DC insider with a former DC insider who got voted out. It typically doesn't work out well.

The LA Times article came out yesterday, but you're convinced that Bachmann has destroyed herself because she has not responded as of this moment.

And you miss the point. Bachmann filed her disclosure about income from the farm how long ago? And wasn't ready with a statement that matches that disclosure when the inevitable questions arose? Smart campaigns anticipate these issues - and when they come across one they didn't anticipate, they have a rapid response team ready to quickly jump on them.

Bachmann is not running a smart campaign so far. The signs are there, and more and more people are realizing this. Sadly, about the only ones not realizing it are ... the Bachmann camp.

Sounds to me as if you're praying nightly for it. Sad...

That's pretty pathetic and slimy. I saw Bachmann as a logical 2nd choice to Palin (who I think will probably NOT get in the race). But in a very short time, Bachmann has soured me on her prospects. I am hardly praying for her to fail. But so far she has been underwhelming in being able to manage a national campaign - probably because she never has run for anything larger than a Congressional district to date.

I have not repeated any issues that were not buttressed by actual facts. If that automatically puts you into a defensive posture, that speaks more of the problems with your candidate than it does about me.