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To: danielmryan

Ron Paul is a NUT! This “law” would prove destructive to the very moral fabric of the nation and would result in the destruction of multitudes of lives and untold misery resulting in further lawlessness, wickedness and ungodliness.


2 posted on 06/25/2011 2:00:34 AM PDT by Jmouse007 (Lord deliver us from evil and from those perpetuating it, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: Jmouse007

Without Arab intoxicants taking us over, then how can we ever close the curtain on Western Civilization?


3 posted on 06/25/2011 2:06:54 AM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: Jmouse007
Dude, you've got to get a handle on those emotions. You're sounding paranoid about a little weed!

You obviously know little about the subject, but your knees do jerk quite well!


5 posted on 06/25/2011 2:12:30 AM PDT by WVKayaker (The GOP needs to live the planks of its platform, not just offer lip service. -Sarah Palin 8/2008)
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To: Jmouse007

Not only that, there will be a massive uptick in marijuana junkies raping white women and listening to negro jazz music!


6 posted on 06/25/2011 2:13:34 AM PDT by Nate505
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To: Jmouse007

Please read the 18th amendment and then explain how Congress actually has the Constitutional authority to ban marijuana.


9 posted on 06/25/2011 2:27:23 AM PDT by Brett11
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To: Jmouse007

The same thing was said about alcohol before prohibition. I say legalize it, but it won’t happen. Too much money made in keeping things the way they are.


10 posted on 06/25/2011 2:33:45 AM PDT by whershey
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To: Jmouse007
That was the same arguments said when FDR repealed Prohibition at the end of 1933. People forget there were many deaths from people making "bathtub gin" that was actually quite poisonous, not to mention a lot less sales of the near-200 proof white lightning, which can be medically dangerous for many humans.
20 posted on 06/25/2011 4:36:07 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Jmouse007
This "law" would prove destructive to the very moral fabric of the nation and would result in the destruction of multitudes of lives and untold misery resulting in further lawlessness, wickedness and ungodliness.

Translation: "If they ever legalize pot, I'm out of a job!"

23 posted on 06/25/2011 5:05:03 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: Jmouse007

“Ron Paul is a NUT! This “law” would prove destructive to the very moral fabric of the nation and would result in the destruction of multitudes of lives and untold misery resulting in further lawlessness, wickedness and ungodliness”

Civilization is under threat not from pot smoking, but from a proliferating police state.


27 posted on 06/25/2011 5:42:59 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: Jmouse007

Is Sarah Palin a ‘nut’, too?

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“If somebody’s gonna smoke a joint in their house and not do anybody any harm, then perhaps there are other things our cops should be looking at to engage in and try to clean up some of the other problems we have in society.”
Sarah Palin

Sarah Palin: Smoking Pot Is No Big Deal
Sarah Palin says recreational pot smoking is “relatively speaking a minimal problem” in America.
In an otherwise uneventful appearance on the Fox Business Network with Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, Palin said that while she doesn’t believe marijuana should be legalized, the country has bigger fish to fry.
“I think we need to prioritize our law enforcement efforts,” she said. “If somebody’s gonna smoke a joint in their house and not do anybody any harm, then perhaps there are other things our cops should be looking at to engage in and try to clean up some of the other problems we have in society.”
Allen St. Pierre, the director of NORML, which supports liberalizing drug laws, said Palin’s position on pot is perfectly in line with her identity as a politician.
“If you’re a populist as she appears to be, it’s maybe not that surprising,” he told AOL News in a phone interview today.
But has the former Republican vice presidential candidate ever lit up a joint?
You betcha. In Alaska, it was legal to smoke small amounts of marijuana until four years ago, and Palin has said that she’s tried it but didn’t like it.
“I can’t claim a Bill Clinton and say that I never inhaled,” she told the Anchorage Daily News in 2006.


30 posted on 06/25/2011 5:49:21 AM PDT by Marie (I agree with everything that Rick Perry is saying. I just wish that *he* did.)
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To: Jmouse007

Oh, right, like America’s moral fabric was completely rotten in 1875 when marijuana, cocaine, every opiate technically feasible to produce in those days (including the very popular tincture of laudanum), absinthe, mescaline, as well as tobacco and alcohol were all legal to sell and possess.

The only bright line I can find between legal psychoactive substances and illegal ones is that the legal ones (tobacco, caffeine in coffee and tea, and alcohol) were popular in Europe at the time of the American Founding, while the illegal ones weren’t.

I can see some arguments for keeping refined cocaine (though not coca leaves) and some hallucinogens (ones that produce ‘flash-back’ tripes) illegal, and fairly strong arguments for keeping methamphetamine, PCP, and ecstacy illegal. Other than that, we should be treating addiction and excessive uses of psychoactive substances as a public health matter, not a criminal matter.

The erosion of civil liberties and diversion of money to ever more ruthless criminal enterprises cause by the “war on drugs” (problems that get worse the more seriously the “war” is prosecuted) more than outweigh the downside in terms of added excessive users and addicts that would would be occasioned by a legalization regime.


44 posted on 06/25/2011 12:04:01 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Jmouse007; bamahead; dcwusmc
Ron Paul is a NUT! This “law” would prove destructive to the very moral fabric of the nation and would result in the destruction of multitudes of lives and untold misery resulting in further lawlessness, wickedness and ungodliness.

Then amend the Constitution to allow for a Federal prohibition of drugs.

Otherwise, all you're doing is violating the Tenth Amendment and loosing the chains on the Federal government...and mind you, a central government with unlimited power and authority will most definitely result in lives destroyed and misery unleashed on the American people.

49 posted on 06/25/2011 6:51:05 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: Jmouse007

Now I KNOW you really haven’t thought this through, have you? Because if you HAD, you’d realize that the rending of our moral fabric has been done BY THE LAW, not so much by the use of recreational substances. In doing your homework, you’d have found that, far from banning drugs because they were “harmful” to folks (the AMA was AGAINST banning drugs, INCLUDING marijuana), the government agents at the time (about 1914) started demonizing various drugs AS USED BY SELECTED ETHNIC GROUPS. First up were the Chinese and smokable opium. Not other forms of opium, just smokable, the way the Chinese liked it after a day of working their butts off. It was claimed quite openly that Chinese men would entice white women into their opium dens, get them intoxicated and have sex with them. Later, after Prohibition I was repealed, heroin and marijuana were targeted, using the same tactics. This was also done to keep the FedGoons of the time employed, the prohibition agents. Targeted were Blacks (jazz musicians who wanted sex with white women) and Mexicans (who ALSO wanted sex with white women).

It was then and yet is today all about power and control over the lives of others. That’s it and that’s all and folks like you are all too willing to trade, not just YOUR freedom, but MINE as well, to have FedGoons kick in doors they have no constitutional authority whatsoever kicking in.

No, if you are someone who believes that the Constitution is what it claims to be, the Supreme Law of the Land, then you MUST BELIEVE that the war on some drugs is both unconstitutional and unconscionable.

Furthermore, and I speak as a sinner saved by Grace, ungodliness and sin are NOT areas for government to be involved with. They are GOD’S DOMAIN and I don’t recall anywhere in the Bible that Jesus told His followers to get laws passed to outlaw sin. Can YOU point that out to me?

No, of the three people involved in this post (You, me and Dr. Paul, whom you mention), there is a “NUT,” as you say, but it’s not Dr. Paul and it’s not me. You are welcome to attempt to refute me, but you can’t do so using anything but FACTS, just as I have done in destroying your rant.

The ultimate fact is that there is more harm done to folks (and to the Constitution) by the WAR on some drugs than ever COULD be done by drug usage itself.


52 posted on 06/26/2011 3:04:43 PM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE)
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To: Jmouse007

Thomas Jefferson and George Washington disagree, morality that is man made is not morality. reality belongs to the creator, thou shalt not smoke pot is not one of the ten commandments...


75 posted on 08/04/2011 4:46:16 AM PDT by aces
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