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Atlas Is Shrugging In The US And Flexing His Muscles Elsewhere
American Thinker ^
| June 23, 2011
| Monty Pelerin
Posted on 06/23/2011 5:30:04 PM PDT by rob777
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To: rob777
She was incorrect in one important area. She assumed the final option for the wealthy and entrepreneurial class was to go on "strike" and retire to Galt's Gulch. In the modern world the movers and shakers don't strike, they migrate. Dumb observation. This is fiction writing and can not be judged "incorrect." Absurd.
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posted on
06/23/2011 7:22:04 PM PDT
by
Misterioso
(A liberal is a communist, but too stupid to realize it.)
To: Colonel Kangaroo
Make them listen to that silliness long enough, the terrorists might start talking as much as Hank Rearden does in his infamous speech.Could you kindly be a little more specific as to Rearden's infamous speech? I wasn't aware he delivered one in Atlas. John Galt, yes, and perhaps Francisco D'Anconia, but not Rearden.
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posted on
06/23/2011 7:50:45 PM PDT
by
Texas Mulerider
(Rap music: hieroglyphics with a beat.)
To: Colonel Kangaroo
“What prudent merchant will hazard his fortunes in any new branch of commerce when he knows not that his plans may be rendered unlawful before they can be executed?”
James Madison.
even Madison understood capitalists
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posted on
06/23/2011 8:27:10 PM PDT
by
griswold3
(Character is destiny)
To: Colonel Kangaroo
If ol' Atlas is so shortsighted to think the grass is greener on the other side, we're better off if he takes his moving and shaking and search for slave labor elsewhere.Read the book before you make unfounded assumptions and irrational comments. If you cannot do that, go back to DU and DK where I am sure you are welcome.
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posted on
06/23/2011 11:18:20 PM PDT
by
higgmeister
( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
To: higgmeister
Read the book before you make unfounded assumptions and irrational comments. If you cannot do that, go back to DU and DK where I am sure you are welcome.I would not be welcomed at DU. It is a site that is very positive toward atheism and abortion. Unlike Ayn Rand, I am neither an atheist nor in favor of "a woman's right to choose".
To: griswold3
Madison was right, but I think fortunes are still safer here than elsewhere. and all things equal, the natural human feeling of national loyalty will keep most folks tied to the homeland long after mere economic logic would suggest a move.
To: Texas Mulerider
Could you kindly be a little more specific as to Rearden's infamous speech? I wasn't aware he delivered one in Atlas. John Galt, yes, and perhaps Francisco D'Anconia, but not Rearden.I stand corrected. Rearden's speech wasn't infamous at all. It didn't even exist! I give credit to Hank for keeping his mouth shut then. A Rand character with the good sense not to drone on is a rare bird indeed.
To: Colonel Kangaroo
Even outside the civil war threads, your leftist panties are showing.
Bottom line is those who are and have been working hard are tired of footing the bill of those slugs who wish not to. Which part of your liberal mind doesn't understand that?
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posted on
06/24/2011 3:53:15 AM PDT
by
catfish1957
(Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
To: Texas Mulerider
Could you kindly be a little more specific as to Rearden's infamous speech? I wasn't aware he delivered one in Atlas. John Galt, yes, and perhaps Francisco D'Anconia, but not ReardenMulerider, this tool and his buddy N/S, have made a career here bending the truth to fit their point of view. Not surprising.
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posted on
06/24/2011 3:57:13 AM PDT
by
catfish1957
(Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
To: I see my hands
u haven't read Atlas Shrugged. How is it you have an opinion? In a message board situation, ignorance is not an obstacle to expressing an opinion. In fact, it often seems to promote it. My issue is not with free enterprise, just Rand's atheism and the belief that Rand's selfishness is equivalent to the beneficial role of self-interest. We don't have to have Rand's contempt for the rest of humanity to be productive and to promote our own individual prosperity.
To: catfish1957
Bottom line is those who are and have been working hard are tired of footing the bill of those slugs who wish not to. Which part of your liberal mind doesn't understand that? Rand was an atheist who was OK with abortion. That does not sound like a conservative to me. Her philosophy was built on atheism. Surely the case for free enterprise is strong enough so we do not have to rely on an atheistic philosopher and her atheistic philosophy.
To: Colonel Kangaroo
In a message board situation, ignorance is not an obstacle to expressing an opinion.A notable observation...
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posted on
06/24/2011 4:07:51 AM PDT
by
meyer
(We will not sit down and shut up.)
To: Colonel Kangaroo
Again you are throwing a NS quip into the mix. We are talking about the philiosphy of A/S, not the lifestyle of the author. Unless you can you explain how going Galt translates into atheism and pro choice.
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posted on
06/24/2011 4:22:42 AM PDT
by
catfish1957
(Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
To: catfish1957
From what I've read about objectivism, atheism is at the heart of her philosophy and not incidental to it. I had this same discussion with my brother and his wife who returned from the theater with fervent praise for the Atlas movie and they didn't believe me either.
To: Colonel Kangaroo
Again. Answer my question. Specifically how does "Going Galt" translate into a pro choice atheistic philosophy?
I am not saying Rand may have had other thoughts, but I am not seeing that in A/S. Was it a short term conservative epihipany, maybe so, but equating other peripheral ideas to this particular prose, is flat our wrong.
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posted on
06/24/2011 4:38:26 AM PDT
by
catfish1957
(Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
To: rob777
It has been some years since reading Rand but I believe that she was against any religion or followers who blindly followed without thinking. It wasnt so much religion per say but the blindly following she objected to. Since her philosophy was based on what is best for self it makes sense, like its OK to believe in a higher power but if you give up your worldly possessions or strap on a suicide belt it is wrong to self.
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posted on
06/24/2011 4:48:14 AM PDT
by
shoff
(Cuomo is going to change the NY state motto from Excelsior to elixir (cause we bought it)
To: catfish1957
Again. Answer my question. Specifically how does "Going Galt" translate into a pro choice atheistic philosophy? When talking about the action itself, I have to say that it doesn't. People do have the natural right to be sovereign over their own efforts. It's the underlying philosophy, not the idea that people should be their own master under God that I object to in objectivism.
To: rob777
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posted on
06/24/2011 5:09:03 AM PDT
by
Daffynition
("Don't just live your life, but witness it also.")
To: TxDas
I Prefer purging.
For a start, purge everything north and east of Manhattan
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posted on
06/24/2011 5:23:05 AM PDT
by
bert
(K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
To: rob777; Republican Extremist; Boucheau; betsyross60; kalee; shezza; fanfan; wfu_deacons; ...
This is a ping list for those who've decided to stop feeding the beast. Let me know if you'd like to be added to the Atlas Shrugged Ping list.
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posted on
06/24/2011 6:00:29 AM PDT
by
jellybean
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