don't go all innocent on me -- what was the uncalled for " it must be so for the god(s) that Ro.. worships"?
Because that is the non-Roman Catholics perception of your faith system. From a non-Rome perspective, veneration of Mary and labeling her as mediatrix and able to entertain the world's prayers and petitions is arguably making her Deity. I know that Rome doesn't see it that way, but obviously, there are many things that Rome sees one way and the world sees as another. Your faith also requires you to abide unquestioningly to the decrees and teachings of the various Popes and their Councils, no matter how contradictory their doctrines and Traditions are over time. To your every day rank and file Catholic, this is a swell arrangement, so great that it was easy to overlook the many campaigns of torture and slaughter that Rome committed against "heretics" and those who simply disagreed. And the Muslims are just as resolute in their faith that shares those same attributes too.
That is why I don't care for the debates between faiths. We both see our systems as infallible and immutable. OK, check, that - y'all don't see yours as immutable, just infallible (provided you can handle the logical/rational conflict in that belief as it coexists with the dynamism and evolution of Holy Tradition)
Augustine disagreed with those philosophies especially being against double-predestination
Perhaps, but there are many Protestants that can't stomach that teaching either - even when it makes for a glaring hole in their soteriology; and as you know every religion on the Planet outside orthodox Christianity rejects Divine Sovereign Election.
How about them Mavericks?
That's what we think of it putting it crudely as your earlier post did. There are nicer ways of putting it such that one still shows disagreement with the others faith yet has the respect for the other person to word it differently.
incorrect -- orthodoxy, which is a way of belief and life is immutable, unchanging. That is why the process of the Mass is the same as described in the Didache.
The reason for the Church's vilification at various points is precisely this immutable nature. That is why the Church is called liberals in the 1890s and conservative a few decades later. That is why she is attacked by the purely script-based calvinists and the purely emotional b-aers.
The immutable nature is visible in the way we don't put things up to vote as the PCUSA did for example.
Sure, there are bad eggs, even evil ones, but the family that is The Church is bigger than that precisely because we have as our Head Priest Jesus Christ who protects it through the ages.