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To: Joe Brower; Squantos; B4Ranch; Eaker

I had some training from a Miami Dade swat trainer a few years back. One part stuck out for being civilian: if you’re not in it, be a good witness, behind the canned soup.

There were several lessons in that one statement. Pick yer battles, keep a low profile, and choose hard cover if possible.

I only carry open when I’m camping. Why in the world, in an urban environ, would you want to announce that you are to be taken out first, and the way to take you out is by ambush or from behind?

I can put two to the center in a second from concealed. IMHO, not wise to wear department insignia off duty, not wise to advertise your armament, not wise to jump into a situation of dynamics you’re unaware of...

IDPA and a nutritious breakfast... things you teach your kids.


111 posted on 06/02/2011 5:15:42 PM PDT by glock rocks (Crouch as low as possible to the floor and cover your head with your hands.)
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To: glock rocks

Used to be taught as officer survival.

Look meek an weak per se...nothing to ID you as a cop. Never let your kids ride in the cruiser etc...

Outstanding post GR ....all good info.

I won’t carry open as a civilian. But if a citizen of this country wants to they should be allowed to make that decision based on the 2nd themselves.


112 posted on 06/02/2011 5:24:31 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: glock rocks

Something to think about.


120 posted on 06/02/2011 8:32:42 PM PDT by Palladin (Sarah Palin in 2012!)
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To: glock rocks
Wisdom is a commodity in short supply. Thank you for supplying some.
121 posted on 06/02/2011 8:35:00 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: glock rocks
Why in the world, in an urban environ, would you want to announce that you are to be taken out first, and the way to take you out is by ambush or from behind?

Yep. The answer to that is to carry concealed. So you look like easy pickings and can be taken out with ease...

Oh wait...

:-|

Your theory doesn't work for people like me. Large, heavily muscled, male... I'd get targeted by a criminal from ambush anyway. It's the only way they'd think they'd have a hand-to-hand fighting chance against me. Not a boast... Just a fact. I look scary, but I'm actually not all that good at hand-to-hand. It's why I carry a gun.

122 posted on 06/03/2011 6:03:01 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (explosive bolts, ten thousand volts at a million miles an hour)
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