Posted on 05/16/2011 7:39:44 PM PDT by conservativegramma
NEW YORK – Newly unearthed information about Hawaii's procedure for numbering birth records at the time Barack Obama was born casts further doubt on the authenticity of the short-form and long-form birth certificates published online with the president's authority.
Details about the registration procedure are significant, because some analysts have wondered how Obama could have been issued a registration number that is higher than the numbers of the published birth certificates of Susan and Gretchen Nordyke, which were registered three days later than the president's. But a 1955 article by Charles Bennett, Hawaii's registrar general in 1961, and George Tokuyama, chief of the registration and records section for the state's Department of Health, stated birth certificates were numbered immediately upon acceptance by the registrar-general.
When the local registrar was satisfied the birth certificate was complete, the registrar-general filed it by placing the filing date on the birth certificate and assigning it a number.
The date was recorded by an ink stamp that manually adjusted the date in the format month-day-year.
The certificate number appears to be applied with a Bates numbering stamp that advanced automatically by one number each time the stamp was used.
Bennett's and Tokuyama's description of this procedure shows that birth certificates were numbered upon acceptance by the registrar-general, and there was no provision that would allow an accepted birth certificate to be put in a pile for three days before a number was stamped on it.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
Only the article he cites doesn't state that. It says nothing at all about how and when the numbers get stamped onto the certificates. What am I missing?
Mike Evans, Niel Abercrombie's buddy, did not misspeak.
Abercrombie - "He said Mike, there is no Barack Obama birth certificate.
Well, the governor demanded to see it. Went to the hospitals sent all his people with search warrant and he could not get it. "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KBdRIN1IXLc#at=49
As we know now Evans says he lied. Uhuh LoL.
Hmmmm...interesting. When Corsi came back from Africa he was supposed to appear On Hannity’s show (or maybe it was the radio) and never did. History repeating itself?
That is an excellent recap; thanks for pulling it all together. The only thing you might consider including is Fukino’s statement that Barry’s original ‘birth record’ is ‘half typed and half handwritten’. Why didn’t he release that one, since she said she had seen it, and that it’s properly numbered and in the files, etc.?
Aah...ÜberCommie lying out of his fat ass!
The soft dictatorship is very HARSH with traitors to the cause.
Retract the story or else! Here is the sound bite at a YouTube address that was since SCRUBBED!
Accept the Communist apology when you click on it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb—1AxmgZ8
Law of Physics. One can't show what doesn't exist!
This is what Janice Okubo the DoH Public Information Officer divulged 2 years ago:
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"The correspondence, excerpted from the Hawaiian DoH.
In regards to the terms “date accepted” and “date filed” on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. HISTORICALLY, the terms “Date accepted by the State Registrar” and “Date filed by the State Registrar” referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of O’ahu or on the neighbor islands of Kaua’i, Hawai’i, Maui, Moloka’i, or Lana’i),and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of O’ahu) respectively.
HISTORICALLY, most often the “date accepted” and the “date filed” is the same date as the majority of births occur on O’ahu (the island with the largest population in our state). In the past, when births were recorded on paper they may have been accepted at a health office on an island other than O’ahu, such as Kaua’i. The paper record would then need to be sent to O’ahu to have a file number placed on it, and the filed date would then be sometime later (as you know, the state of Hawai’i is comprised of multiple islands with miles of water in between). The electronic age has changed this process significantly, and it was determined some time ago that one date would suffice.
Janice Okubo
Hawaii State Department of Health "
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2457491/posts?page=588#588
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When a birth certificate came through the door at the main office, it got a file number (BC number) but the dates "accepted" or "filed" could be later than when the birth certificate was numbered.
Well, well, well.
Gov Pothead lied about the archives as well because that’s not where b/c are kept.
Thanks, but that is not from the article Corsi cited. The whole point of Corsi’s article is that he discovered a 1955 article which outlines this specific part of the process - which it does not.
Probably best to ignore this WND article - it adds no useful information.
Please don’t tell me Fukino was lying. My faith in the integrity of Hawaii’s political machine couldn’t take the hit. ;)
"A nurse or clerk in the hospital fills in the certificate form and gets the mother to sign it. Then the attending physician enters certain medical data and affixes his signature. Finally, the hospital sends the completed certificate to the local registrar."
Then Okubo confirmed, "referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health......and the date a file number was placed on a record". Okubo is confirming that when the record is received by the registrar, a file number is placed on it. Not 3 days later, or a week later, WHEN THE RECORD IS RECEIVED.
The 1955 article is new information as it CONFIRMS Okubo's previous statements, and it confirms when a record is sent to the local registrar, after the mother and physician sign it. Again, not 3 days or a week later, as Obama trolls have tried to claim.
Who does the author suggest leaked the info? I can’t tell but they mention this site.
Neither that quote nor the remainder of the 1955 article says anything about when the number is applied, and that is the only issue that Corsi is claiming to have documented.
I would not cite this Corsi article for any reason at all. Corsi’s work is very slipshod. He also refers to the “registrar-general” as part of the process, another thing which is not discussed in the 1955 article.
HANNITY CANCELLED
Well, well, well.
Sean Hannity - you are NOT a great American!!!
That leaves the likes of Peter Broyles and Jeff Malzberg as the lone beacons of freedom.
HANNITY CANCELLED
Well, well, well.
Sean Hannity - you are NOT a great American!!!
That leaves the likes of Peter Broyles and Jeff Malzberg as the lone beacons of freedom.
Did Ayers generate a fake identity for Obama ?
quoted from Bill Ayers’s Fugitive Dreams:
“After the Baltimore fiasco, stealing ID was forbidden. Instead we began to build ID sets around documents as flimsy as a fishing license or a laminated card available in a Times Square novelty shop called “Official ID.” We soon figured out that the deepest and most foolproof ID had a government-issued Social Security card at its heart, and the best source of those were dead-baby birth certificates. I spent impious days over the next several months tramping through rural cemeteries in Iowa and Wisconsin, Illinois and North Dakota,searching for those sad little markers of people born between 1940 and 1950 who had died between 1945 and 1955. The numbers were surprising: two in one graveyard, a cluster of fourteen in another. Those poor souls had typically been issued birth certificates—available to us at any county courthouse for a couple of bucks and a simple form with information I could copy from the death announcement at the archive of the local paper—but they had never applied for a Social Security card.
“Collecting those birth certificates became a small industry, and within a year we had over a hundred. For years I was a paper-made Joseph Brown, and then an Anthony Lee, remarkably durable identities. My on-paper official residences: a transient hotel in San Francisco and a warehouse in New York.”
I wonder why he canceled?
Why do you care that you are not natural born citizen? It only matters for the Presidency. You are a citizen, just not natural born.
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