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In bad economy, drivers buckling under traffic tickets
St. Pete Times ^ | Monday, May 16, 2011 | By Michael Van Sickler, Times Staff Writer

Posted on 05/16/2011 8:52:18 AM PDT by DeaconBenjamin

Rosemary Smith saw the motorcycle cop's flashing lights behind her, and her eyes immediately started to well up.

She was going 17 mph over the speed limit and faced a $256 fine, the officer told her after she pulled into a parking lot off Fourth Street N.

As she fought back tears, her life story spilled out. She was a full-time college student, her only income from part-time work as a bank teller. She had a wedding coming up in November.

"I've got house bills to pay," said Smith, 21, visibly shaken as she clutched the wheel of her blue Saturn. "I'm freaking out."

Motorists complaining about tickets is nothing new for traffic cops. But officers say they are sensing growing distress.

"A day doesn't go by when I don't see someone cry," said Officer Mauricio Steffek. "They can't believe how much the ticket costs. They'll tell me, 'Give me a break. I don't have a job now. I'm falling behind the mortgage or car payments.' "

Once a minor, if stressful, inconvenience, the everyday traffic citation is becoming a life altering breaking point for many.

And more and more, drivers aren't paying them — creating a ripple effect in city and county budgets across Tampa Bay.

In St. Petersburg, the money collected from traffic tickets has dropped from $681,000 in 2008 to $494,214 in 2010. It's projected to dwindle even further this year — despite the fact that police handed out 1,500 more tickets last year than they did in 2008.

"It's a drastic drop that means we have to find revenue from other places," said Tim Finch, St. Petersburg's director of budget and management. "It makes it tougher on other departments."

Pinellas County has seen its ticket revenue fall by $700,000 in two years. In Tampa, police estimate they will bring in $900,000 less than they did in 2008. In Hillsborough, fine collections are down nearly $3 million since 2008.

"It's directly related to the economy," said Hillsborough Clerk of Courts Pat Frank. "People are being more cautious because they can't afford it. And police officers are more reluctant to give out tickets when the fines are more costly."

In recent years, Florida's tax adverse politicians have raised fees to generate new revenue. Traffic law-flouting motorists are a tempting target because they don't garner public sympathy.

State lawmakers in 2009 approved new measures to produce more than $63 million, all from the pockets of wayward motorists. Included: a new $10 charge on all traffic infractions, cutting an 18 percent discount for attending traffic school, and a $25 increase for exceeding the speed limit by 15 to 29 mph.

Local governments tack on more charges. In Pinellas County, for instance, each citation can get assessed an extra $30 for court costs; $3 for driver education safety programs; $3 for teen court; and $2 to pay for public safety applicant screenings.

Tickets range from $62 for a bicycle infraction to $456 for traveling 20 to 29 mph over the limit in a school or construction zone. If a driver is hit with multiple violations, such as speeding, not wearing a seat belt and having an expired tag, fines can climb to nearly $700.

In times like these, a ticket can be a severe blow to those living paycheck to paycheck.

Officers have the discretion to waive the ticket if they think the driver would be better served with a warning. Traffic cops like to say it's about public safety, not the money.

On a recent Tuesday morning, Steffek listened to Smith's tale of woe. He called up her driving history. Clean. He decided to waive the fine.

"It would have been hard for me to pay," said Smith, grateful and smiling.

As she drove away, Steffek said he had imagined himself in her predicament.

"She was shaking really bad," he said. "She was scared."

• • •

Pain felt by drivers is so evident their biggest supporters are often the cops who stop them.

"Our deputies feel that because of the way the economy is, they give out a lot more warnings," said Detective Larry McKinnon, Hillsborough sheriff's spokesman.

Same with Pinellas.

"We're very aware of some of the cost," said spokeswoman Marianne Pasha. "If there is an opportunity to write a warning, rather than write a citation, that's what we'll do."

In many cases, deputies won't write multiple citations like they did in the past. If someone with a clean driving record is caught speeding without wearing a seat belt, McKinnon said, they'll be cited for a seat belt violation.

"We're more tolerant," he said. "People have lost their jobs and are struggling. A lot of times you'll see families in the car. How do you write someone a $700 ticket when they have a carload of kids?"

Empathy comes with a price.

Pinellas is on track to write 2,000 fewer tickets than it did two years ago. Hillsborough tickets dropped by 40,000 from 2008 to 2010. Not all of that stemmed from deputies waiving tickets, McKinnon said.

The other reason also is economic: There are fewer deputies out there writing tickets.

In St. Petersburg, police are handing out more tickets than ever, but fewer people are paying, said Lt. William Korinek, who oversees traffic enforcement.

"People are saying that the tickets are too expensive," Korinek said. "For the most part, they're not criminals. They're people like you and me, average people going about their day. "

On a recent Tuesday, Chris Robinson, a retired 64-year-old, was running errands when he was stopped for speeding.

He was going 48 mph in a 35 mph zone. The fine: $206.

"I can't pay it," Robinson said as his shoulders sagged and he cradled his face in his hand. "I'm on a fixed income. It's going to kill me."

Fined drivers can pay the full sum within 30 days, or spread the fine out in six monthly installments.

An increasingly popular option: People can work off the debt with community service.

"Economic conditions are driving that," said Hazel Bure, director of the court and operational services at the Pinellas County Clerk of Court. "The traffic fines are very high."

Drivers calculate the hours they need to work for a nonprofit by dividing the fine by the $7.25 hourly minimum wage. A $206 fine would be almost 29 hours. The fine isn't waived until the courts get a verification letter from the nonprofit.

The option is a boon to groups like Habitat for Humanity. Since 2008, the nonprofit has seen the number of people volunteering to pay off tickets double to about 12 a week, said Kevin Klucas, the group's volunteer coordinator.

"It works well for us, and hopefully becomes a good experience for them, too," Klucas said.

While some turn the experience into a productive one, officials say others let a ticket disrupt their lives. If a fine isn't paid, a motorist's driver's license is suspended, a misdemeanor that can mean going to jail. The state doesn't track the number of suspended licenses, but some law enforcement officers say there has been a rise.

A look at Pinellas County jail records show that more than 7,000 people were processed for that charge since 2005.

The majority of those were people arrested on the charge for the second or third time.

• • •

During rush hour last week, Steffek and fellow St. Petersburg Officer Chris Dort stopped more than a dozen drivers in two hours. Nearly everyone fretted about the fine.

"I work hard and make just enough to pay my bills," said Bob Samples, a 47-year-old restaurant worker facing a $206 speeding ticket. John Zurek was looking at $256 for going 17 mph over the limit. A 20-year-old St. Petersburg College student who recently quit his job at a sandwich shop, Zurek said he didn't know where he'd get the money.

Whatever strain motorists are feeling, it may only get worse.

St. Petersburg officials are installing red light cameras to catch offenders and will likely start handing out $158 tickets this summer. Hillsborough County already does. Tampa soon will.

"I feel bad for some of these drivers," Dort said. "People are busy. They're running around, trying to make ends meet. It's real rough out there."


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To: DeaconBenjamin

Isn’t that the whole point of issuing tickets, deterring people from driving unsafely? If the fine is just a little nuisance fee and doesn’t actually affect people’s finances, it’s useless.

So to Rosemary Smith I say: If you were in such a hurry, you should have left home earlier.


41 posted on 05/16/2011 9:14:29 AM PDT by LonelyCon
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Cue the scene from “Liar,liar”-Jim Carrey’s lawyer character giving advice to one of his criminal clients:
“STOP BREAKING THE LAW,A**HOLE!!!”


42 posted on 05/16/2011 9:14:29 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee ("Criticism......brings attention to an unhealthy state of things"-Winston Churchill)
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To: OrangeHoof

“Our cops are becoming feminized...”

Are you serious? Feminized? The cops in my county and state wear all black including boots with shaved heads. Try putting them on a camcorder, too. See what being feminine is all about when they arrest you.


43 posted on 05/16/2011 9:14:52 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: DeaconBenjamin
Can't pay the fine? Don't do the crime.
It doesn't take a lot of intellectual horsepower or powers of coordination to observe speed limits and other simple traffic laws, like chaging lanes going through an intersection.

In a just ended weekend visit to San Jose California the number of ombination speeders/red-light runners were too numerous to keep a count. One particular professional scofflaw managed to do speeding, run two red light and cut across three lanes of traffic with no signals or warning all in less than 8 seconds...

Sympathy? I don't think so.

44 posted on 05/16/2011 9:16:21 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Long Form = Hospital-Generated detailed birth form with all details and seal.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

If you can’t afford the ticket don’t speed it is easy.


45 posted on 05/16/2011 9:17:47 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: CodeToad

I’ve seen a lot of examples of police being lenient because of the high fines and the economy. Our company is in an industry that is hard hit by the economy and almost everyone in our office has been pulled over and let go with a warning. That is very unusual because they patrol our road frequently. I was pulled over and got a minor fine for a minor infraction. I think he was being nice so I didn’t have to pay the high $256 fine. Someone who has a cop in the family told me that if you get pulled over, don’t find your registration or take off your seat belt. They are looking for another reason to write a ticket and not give the high speeding fines. Don’t know, but it worked for me.


46 posted on 05/16/2011 9:18:20 AM PDT by No Socialist
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To: Red Badger

“So he’s admitting that traffic tickets are nothing more than revenue generators.................”

Which is why I think they should start selling speeding passes. Imagine how much revenue they would collect by selling these things, and people could pre-pay and not have to worry about the time and expense of going to court.


47 posted on 05/16/2011 9:19:24 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: SECURE AMERICA
Got nothing to do with safety. Absolutely nothing.

It is a source of revenue, pure and simple.

The cost, placed on any infraction, is the maximum the govt can "get" for a particular deed.

Problem is, the level is approaching and in many cases has passed the acceptance level of the public.

48 posted on 05/16/2011 9:19:54 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

I lost my license for two weeks last year for speeding tickets. I fought it and got it back, it would have been 30 days. It was pure hell.

I did two things. I don’t speed. Ever. I also bought a radar detector because even though I don’t speed now I like to know when they are around so I can be more aware of my surroundings.

The fact is that it IS revenue enhancement and they DO have quotas.


49 posted on 05/16/2011 9:20:02 AM PDT by Peter from Rutland
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To: DeaconBenjamin

In New York state they slapped on a ‘driver responsibility fee’ which effectively doubled the fine for any ticket.

People are slowing down like crazy because a speeding ticket is now over $400

and so the police are having to creep around all day long FOLLOWING people to find them doing something wrong so they can give tickets and make their quota

it is a nightmare

I am leaving this idiotic state

LETS ALL GO TO TEXAS AND SECEEDE~!!!


50 posted on 05/16/2011 9:20:07 AM PDT by Mr. K (this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
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To: webheart
Well, maybe you clicked before, but I can point you to several such posts, if you actually read the responses before your own insipid "In before the" post.

I guess there are a lot of people supportive of traffic-based revenue enhancement, and thus the growth of big government at the expense of the citizenry, on here. They infected the thread before I could post.

51 posted on 05/16/2011 9:20:35 AM PDT by thesharkboy (<-- looking for the silver lining)
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To: No Socialist
I’ve seen a lot of examples of police being lenient because of the high fines and the economy.

In a lot of places the police themselves are being laid off or being made to take pay cuts. I think that provides a nice incentive for them to not work hard, especially for greedy politicians who use public safety as a bargaining chip against the electorate to try and extort higher taxes from them.

52 posted on 05/16/2011 9:20:58 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: momtothree

“Are you serious? Feminized? The cops in my county and state wear all black including boots with shaved heads. Try putting them on a camcorder, too. See what being feminine is all about when they arrest you.”

Maybe they have something frilly, soft and silky underneath?


53 posted on 05/16/2011 9:21:31 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Publius6961

Why don’t they just make speeding a $1 million fine? Why not execute people for breaking traffic laws? Are there reasonable limits to the power that government has?


54 posted on 05/16/2011 9:22:09 AM PDT by thesharkboy (<-- looking for the silver lining)
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To: max americana

LEO and politicians with common sense would not take such a hard attitude you recommend unless you want riots and street uprisings. Look at Greece. When hardpressed, anarchist attitudes rise up. Would you like people boarding buses and trains and refuse to pay. Would you like to see people vandalize ATM machines and throw rocks thru windows of banks. Would you like to see people stop filing tax returns and paying fines. It is happening in Greece and Ireland when services are cut and taxes/fees are raised. Worst would you like anti coporate/bank/authority Green Party types come to power in local communities.


55 posted on 05/16/2011 9:24:06 AM PDT by Fee
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To: max americana

LEO and politicians with common sense would not take such a hard attitude you recommend unless you want riots and street uprisings. Look at Greece. When hardpressed, anarchist attitudes rise up. Would you like people boarding buses and trains and refuse to pay. Would you like to see people vandalize ATM machines and throw rocks thru windows of banks. Would you like to see people stop filing tax returns and paying fines. It is happening in Greece and Ireland when services are cut and taxes/fees are raised. Worst would you like anti coporate/bank/authority Green Party types come to power in local communities.


56 posted on 05/16/2011 9:24:18 AM PDT by Fee
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To: thesharkboy
In before the insipid “Don’t do the crime if you can’t pay the fine” posts.

Can't pay the fine?
Blame your mother, or stupid rules, or wave your "I'm special" card, or just get even by driving your pickup truck twice as fast tomorrow. Lots of ways you can assert your pre-teen-mentality personality.

Things aren't aren't bad enough for you to put a brain in gear? maybe you can rent one.

57 posted on 05/16/2011 9:24:49 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Long Form = Hospital-Generated detailed birth form with all details and seal.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

I am so sick of this bad economy


58 posted on 05/16/2011 9:24:52 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: pnh102

“going 17mph over the limit... that is a clear cut case of meriting a ticket when a cop sees that.”

Not always the case. In my neighbor there is one spot that quickly goes from 55 MPH to 45 zone to 35 zone. A cop sits right at the beginning of the 35 zone and can ticket pretty much anybody he wants.


59 posted on 05/16/2011 9:25:13 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Slump Tester
busting pimps & dealers or....

Well, I'm a cynic.... But if I was a cop, who would I rather go after? Drug dealers, likely armed, likely in groups, and likely defending their "turf"? Or soccer moms hurrying home to get a roast in for dinner?

Either way, I'm enforcing the laws. Laws, which, the public *demands* that I enforce.

I used to sit on a "Neighborhood Watch" board. It was a surreal experience - lots of retirees with little to do but mind everyone's business for them. 90% of the complaints generated were speed/driving related.

The *real* problems in the neighborhood were gang-related (a number of members of MS-13 had just rented a house in the neighborhood), and theft-related (lots of smash and grabs, car break-ins, etc). But - since the seniors incessantly were terrified of the thought that someone, somewhere, might be driving 30 mph in a 25 zone.... we got more traffic enforcement. The cities' gang unit, also property crimes unit, were specifically requested to be given secondary priority.

That's my experience. I've no idea why people would be terrified of a driver that's not obeying a speed limit 6 streets over, but not give gang members breaking into their houses a second thought.

60 posted on 05/16/2011 9:26:13 AM PDT by wbill
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