Posted on 05/15/2011 10:16:18 AM PDT by Zhang Fei
On May 2nd, the United States was prepared to go to war with Pakistan. The American raid on that day, which killed Osama bin Laden and seized a huge mass of al Qaeda data from his Pakistani hideout, was carried out without informing Pakistan beforehand. Although Pakistan had years earlier agreed that the U.S. could enter Pakistani territory in hot pursuit of terrorists fleeing Afghanistan, or to grab high ranking al Qaeda leaders, it was always assumed that the U.S. would let the Pakistani military know what was coming. But because the Pakistani government was full of bin Laden fans, the U.S. did not inform Pakistan about the raid until it was underway. Apparently, that message included a reminder that if the U.S. troops in the bin Laden compound were attacked by Pakistani forces, there would be instant, and far-reaching, consequences.
The extent of those consequences have since been pieced together, from unclassified information. By May 2nd, the U.S. had assembled a huge naval and air force in the region, that was pointed at Pakistan. This force would attack any Pakistani troops or warplanes that went after the U.S. forces in the bin Laden compound, or who might be able to do so. The U.S. had assembled three aircraft carriers, hundreds of air force aircraft in Afghanistan and the Persian Gulf, and dozens of helicopters, and thousands of troops, in Afghanistan. Most of these troops didn't know what they were alerted for. Such alerts happen all the time, often for no reason (as far as the troops are concerned.) But this time, as word of the bin Laden raid got out, it became obvious (at least to those who know how these things work) that the alerts throughout the region were to prepare for the possible need to quickly get the American raiders out, and destroy any Pakistani forces that sought to interfere.
Not surprisingly, the Pakistanis did not interfere. In fact, local Pakistani forces surrounded the bin Laden compound and kept anyone from getting in, or out, by land. The Pakistanis did not enter the compound until the Americans had flown away, with bin Laden's body, and documents. Pakistan later complained about this violation of their territory. The complaints were somewhat muted by the need to answer embarrassing questions about why bin Laden and his family had been in this military town (home to the national military academy, over 10,000 troops and hundreds of high ranking retired officers) for six years without being noticed.
The Pakistani was apparently willing to help hide bin Laden, but not, on a large scale, die for him.
Our President would surrender to Pakistan first.
Could be and that might be the actual scenario of the End Days affair where God Himself ends this slaughter worldwide via the Islamofascists, Russia-China and other thuggish tyrannies. After all, the dirty little secret that we must all play is: to a Christian, all other religious ethos=systems are false since they do not recognize Jesus as Lord, Creator, Savior with none other. Of course, the secularists will gag, Islamic scholars will whine, Hindus will give to 2000 gods and goddesses and Buddhists will inspect their belly buttons.Jews, some of them ,will wake to this reality in that supposed End Times. When one realistically looks at the numbers, Muslims , the Chinese-Russians ,Indians and then the wussy West really seem to be the only powers left to challenge each other. To me, God will be the determinant in this last struggle. But millions will die and no one will be surprised that Islam and the greed of the Chicoms and Russians will be all wrapped up in this final struggle. Except the NY Times and WAPO, of course. LOL
So was Saudi zealotry. Saudis were able to get into the country because the @#$@! state department was only too happy to let them in. The only thing for it is to keep these nationals out of US territory, read the riot attack to our allies and partners about giving these people any freedom of movement, and to take them out whenever they attack us abroad. In other words, more of the same. If they devolve into another Somalia, Afganistan, Palestinean Authority, or North Korea, what is to be done? Better colonization than more “national building”, but no one’s seriously advocating that.
September 16, 2001 was the day to declare war on Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.
Bush could have had the 80-division Army he needed had he asked Congress for it on that day.
We are immeasurably weaker now.
I agree
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13407465
JFKerry is talking to them NOT sure what this means for US.
Bump.
The number of Saudi playboys is growing to unsupportable levels. King Abdullah has 4 wives and 22 children (plus 37 brothers). Upon his death (he's 87) his children inherit his fortune according to Islamic law (sons get a double share over daughters). Each of these Saudi princes has multiple wives and many children. Each of the children has an expectation of living like his dad. The oil revenue will not be enough.
“we are not a united states, but are mishmash of self-serving tribes and individuals all looking out for our own interests.”
On the left, you are correct.
Here’s a broader perspective:
We were also divided during the American Revolution. And, we were divided prior to WWII.
But actually on the right, you are largely correct. We have RINOs, closet RINOs, and confused conservatives who work for RINOs.
“There’s too much pressure on each side to keep the status quo going.”
I suppose Obama and Hillary will do their Alinksi’est to cool things down in Pakistan now that OBL is fish food. And, they love shoveling out foreign money. Strange stat I learned though regarding the 2005 budget:
For every 1000 dollars, $6.30 went to foreign aid:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18098378/ns/business-answer_desk/t/where-do-my-income-tax-dollars-go/
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