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Was Obama an Indonesian citizen? [Evidence raises concerns over presidential qualification]
WND ^ | May 08, 2011 | Aaron Klein

Posted on 05/09/2011 8:35:43 PM PDT by RobinMasters

Evidence continues to mount that President Obama was adopted by his Indonesian stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, raising concerns over his presidential eligibility.

Obama's American mother, Ann Dunham, separated from her first husband, Barack Obama Sr., in 1963 when the president was 2 years old. Dunham and Obama Sr. are reported to have later divorced.

In Hawaii, Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian, in 1965 and moved to Indonesia in October 1967.

Divorce documents filed in Hawaii on Aug. 20, 1980, refer to Obama as the "child" of both Soetoro and Dunham, indicating a possible adoption in the U.S.

Jerome Corsi’s new book, "Where’s the Birth Certificate?", is now available for immediate shipping, autographed by the author, only from the WND Superstore

The divorce records state: "The parties have 1 child(ren) below age 18 and 1 child(ren) above 18 but still dependent on the parties for education."

The records further identify the "oldest child" as "in university."

"Mother resides with youngest child in 4-bedroom house provided by mother's employer," continues the divorce documents.

The documents identify the minor as Obama's stepsister, Maya Soetoro.

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To: OldDeckHand; Jim Robinson
'he is NOT a natural born citizen, is he? "

Ah, yep, he is.


Why do you keep calling Jim a liar?

One of the constitutional requirements for the office of the presidency is that he be a "natural born citizen." This was put into place by the founders to keep foreigners or persons who do not bear a non-questionable allegiance to the US Constitution out. Obviously, and admittedly Barack Hussein Obama was born to a foreign citizen and is not 100% American. He's half-American, half-African and all Marxist. He obviously bears no allegiance whatsoever to the US Constitution and is working overtime to destroy it. He's a usurper and should be removed from office. He is exactly the kind of fraud/usurper the founders feared.
161 posted on 05/10/2011 12:08:15 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Plummz
"Why do you hate America?"

Why do you hate intelligence?

Failing to answer the question must mean that you love stupidity, ignorance and intellectual vacancy. Just saying.

162 posted on 05/10/2011 12:10:18 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

Earth to ODH, I already seen the video since I already posted what transpired in the interview at 141.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2717548/posts?page=141#141


163 posted on 05/10/2011 12:11:55 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Brown Deer; Jim Robinson
"Why do you keep calling Jim a liar?"

Why do you keep acting so patently dishonestly?

You have issued straw man argument after straw man argument. It's beyond contemptible and beneath ANYONE who describes themselves as conservative.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Everyone is an entitled to an opinion, but they are not entitled to their own facts. In this case, the facts and the LAW as it exists today ARE CRYSTAL CLEAR.

The ONLY WAY to remove a sitting president is through impeachment in the House and conviction in the Senate.

164 posted on 05/10/2011 12:13:24 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: bluecat6
I think you're correct on everything except that Sr. wasn't so dumb as not to realize he was in the middle of some marriage ceremony or the need for it. He probably didn't list Barry on his paperwork until ‘64 because he didn't know if the child lived to birth or what it's name was or if it was a boy or girl. None of his U of HI friends knew anything about Stanley Ann or the baby because the Dunhams had shipped her 3000 miles away and kept her there just as you said to keep him from claiming their grandchild. With the divorce, INS would demand a full accounting and that's when he could also use the anchor to extend his stay. Before the divorce, imagine what the INS would have said if he told them he'd gotten some 17 year old white girl preggers, they had a shotgun wedding, he was so undesirable that her family shipped her off, and he has no idea or cares if the kid is alive and well. If that little story had come out, the INS would have yanked the welcome mat from under his feet years before. It was in Sr.’s best interest to keep mum on that little escapade.
165 posted on 05/10/2011 12:16:10 PM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Red Steel
"Earth to ODH, I already seen the video since I already posted what transpired in the interview at 141."

I don't know how anyone can listen to that interview, especially the entire relevant comments, and not conclude that Corsi is a truther. He says...

For me, Alex, what really tips the scale, is you've got science that the conventional hypothesis doesn't explain...that's what rattles the cage".

That's what he says. Verbatim.

166 posted on 05/10/2011 12:18:46 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: SvenMagnussen
Obama naturalized as a US citizen in the early 80’s. His complete immigation file with USCIS has all the details.

Thanks, Sven.

Naturalized? Supposedly, it wasn't young 0b0z0's fault that he lost his USA citizenship. The question then would be, did young 0b0z0 go through the process outlined in rxsid's post, #76?

If 0b0z0 renounced the US citizenship through process, what now?

167 posted on 05/10/2011 12:18:46 PM PDT by melancholy (Papa Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist)
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To: Red Steel

Corsi rejected 9/11 truther arguments. It was the Obama campaign that smeared him:

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=72787


168 posted on 05/10/2011 12:21:18 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: OldDeckHand

Where's Sr.'s signature you keep talking about?

169 posted on 05/10/2011 12:26:39 PM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Plummz

You need to show proper respect and answer the questions posed to you if you expect anyone to answer yours:

How many different countries has your president been a citizen of?

Do you believe that a person who has questionable allegiance to the United States of America should be the President of our country?

Do you believe that your president has questionable allegiance to the United States?

Do you believe that only a natural born citizen as stated in the Constitution of the United States can be President of our country?

Do you believe that your president is a natural born citizen of the United States?

Do you believe that Barack Hussein 0bama should be removed from office?

Your continued refusal to engage these issues indicates a deep hatred of America on your part.

Why do you hate America?


170 posted on 05/10/2011 12:27:24 PM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: OldDeckHand
For me, Alex, what really tips the scale, is you've got science that the conventional hypothesis doesn't explain...that's what rattles the cage".

And he's talking about the iron spheres that could only be caused by higher temperatures. As I said above, Corsi left open the door that some other fuels were already present inside the buildings that caused the iron nodules. It could be anything from furniture to paints and solvents that burned hotter than jet fuel, and he was playing to the audience.

The reason you post stuff from Lefty LoonyVille is to attack Corsi because he wrote books and articles that are detrimental to Obama and his silly and BS nativity story.

171 posted on 05/10/2011 12:29:42 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: bgill
Where's Sr.'s signature you keep talking about?

It must be the drugs...
172 posted on 05/10/2011 12:30:49 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
It's FAR easier to get financial aid as a black American student than it is as a foreign student.

It's FAR easier to get financial aid as a black Kenyan/Indonesian muslim from a Saudi prince than as a half white American student.

173 posted on 05/10/2011 12:31:16 PM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
It's FAR easier to get financial aid as a black American student than it is as a foreign student.

It's FAR easier to get financial aid as a black Kenyan/Indonesian muslim from a Saudi prince than as a half white American student.

174 posted on 05/10/2011 12:31:16 PM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: curiosity; LucyT; melancholy; RobinMasters; Polarik; Candor7; opentalk; bgill; Hotlanta Mike; ...
...a US citizen child does not lose his citizenship by virtue of being adopted by a foreigner.

To curiosity:

First, you are assuming that Obama was a US citizen before his adoption. We do not know that for a fact, since he's never shown us a bona fide long form birth certificate nor any other credible evidence to show that he was a US citizen at any point in his life. All the documents he has shown us are likely forgeries.

Secondly, the constitution requires that a president be a natural born citizen. To be a natural born citizen, he cannot have had dual citizenship at any point in his life. So citizenship of Indonesia, even if he had American citizenship simultaneous to it, would make him constitutionally ineligible for the presidency.

The reason for the "natural born citizen" requirement for president in the Constitution is to assure that the chief executive officer of United States government has never had any loyalty or allegiance to any foreign country.

Sorry, curiosity, the United States offers some wonderful opportunities for foreigners coming here, but the presidency of the country is non among them.

175 posted on 05/10/2011 12:33:52 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: curiosity; LucyT; melancholy; RobinMasters; Polarik; Candor7; opentalk; bgill; Hotlanta Mike; ...
...a US citizen child does not lose his citizenship by virtue of being adopted by a foreigner.

To curiosity:

First, you are assuming that Obama was a US citizen before his adoption. We do not know that for a fact, since he's never shown us a bona fide long form birth certificate nor any other credible evidence to show that he was a US citizen at any point in his life. All the documents he has shown us are likely forgeries.

Secondly, the constitution requires that a president be a natural born citizen. To be a natural born citizen, he cannot have had dual citizenship at any point in his life. So citizenship of Indonesia, even if he had American citizenship simultaneous to it, would make him constitutionally ineligible for the presidency.

The reason for the "natural born citizen" requirement for president in the Constitution is to assure that the chief executive officer of United States government has never had any loyalty or allegiance to any foreign country.

Sorry, curiosity, the United States offers some wonderful opportunities for foreigners coming here, but the presidency of the country is not among them.

176 posted on 05/10/2011 12:34:58 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: bgill
Who pinged the trolls?

I did. I always summon my students to nip at the heels of the Conservatives on this site.

Papa Alinsky, Troll at Large

177 posted on 05/10/2011 12:35:09 PM PDT by melancholy (Papa Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist)
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To: OldDeckHand

If he’s not in there legally, then he’s not president so he should be read his rights while being handcuffed and thrown in jail.

Impeachment is for a POTUS that is in there legally.


178 posted on 05/10/2011 12:37:14 PM PDT by MagnoliaB
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To: danamco; Brown Deer

Dear FRiends,
Don’t you get it? According to his followers, obama don’t NEED no steenking birth cerificate. He is...an...earthling, a “citizen” of the underworld, (LITERALLY,) a global criminal, and that, to some people, is all it takes.


179 posted on 05/10/2011 12:38:27 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If you want to pillage,plunder,destroy, blaspheme,or defile, become a muslim, or name yourself obama)
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To: justiceseeker93

S/he isn’t that curious.


180 posted on 05/10/2011 12:42:32 PM PDT by melancholy (Papa Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist)
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