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Republican Presidential Debate #1 - May 5, 2011 - Greenville, South Carolina (Live Thread)

Posted on 05/05/2011 5:08:20 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture

Broadcast on: Fox News

Broadcast time: 9pm EDT/6pm PDT

The Candidates...

Gary Johnson

Johnson served as governor of New Mexico from 1995 to 2002. He founded what would become one of the largest construction companies in New Mexico. He has competed in several triathlons and climbed Mount Everest.

Herman Cain

Cain is the former chief executive of Godfather's Pizza and former chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. He lost the Georgia Republican primary for a U.S. Senate seat in 2004. He was recently the host of Atlanta-based radio show.

Rick Santorum

Santorum served two terms in the U.S. House and two terms in the U.S. Senate. He became the Senate's third-ranking Republican in 2001. He was defeated for reelection in 2006.

Ron Paul

Paul is serving his 11th full term in the U.S. House. He’s an obstetrician-gynecologist and was the Libertarian nominee for president in 1988. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican nomination for president in 2008

Tim Pawlenty

Pawlenty served two terms as governor of Minnesota, from 2002 to 2010. He served in the Minnesota House from 1992 until 2002. He is the son of a truck driver.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: cain; debate; debates; garyjohnson; gopdebate; hermancain; johnson; paul; pawlenty; presidentialdebate; ricksantorum; ronpaul; santorum; scdebate; scgopdebate; timpawlenty
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To: BillyBoy
Even if he wanted, Trump couldn't appear because of Celebrity Apprentice which raps up in a few weeks. If he were on the stage tonight, all the candidates would need a weekly hour of primetime out of 'fairness.'

Some candidates, like Romney, Daniels and Palin, don't have those limitations. They didn't show up. Maybe they're not serious either?

421 posted on 05/05/2011 10:25:47 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Stay focused: Debt, Deficits & Immigration.)
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To: Gene Eric

I’d rather pick from this crew than one that involved Romney, Huckabee, and McCain.


422 posted on 05/05/2011 10:27:51 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: itsahoot
He is inducing the problem, that is the plan.

Point well taken.

423 posted on 05/05/2011 10:38:10 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: higgmeister; MsLady; SE Mom

He has picked up over 4000 Facebook fans in the past few hours!


424 posted on 05/05/2011 10:38:46 PM PDT by justsaynomore ("Holding hands and singing kumbayah is not a foreign policy strategy!" - Herman Cain)
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To: tsowellfan
A couple have defensible reasons to delay: Trump has his contractual obligation with NBC, Daniels waited for the legislative session to end but that leaves Newt, Palin, Romney and the rest.

I would tell any candidate who wants to win to forget the old style political calculus and maneuvering. If you lead people will notice and we need leadership now. Even if things turn up or down from here, people will remember when you stood up.

Are they waiting for it to get worse? To see if a recovery finally takes hold? Is it because they're all so wildly wealthy, insulated from "little things" like inflation, unemployment and gas prices, and disconnected from the fear, anger and uncertainty in the rest of us?

The GOP is looking for excuses to raise the debt ceiling for as little political backlash or policy gain as possible. It's mind-numbing.

425 posted on 05/05/2011 10:56:49 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Stay focused: Debt, Deficits & Immigration.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

A pipe dream is for someone looking for the perfect conservative to come along who will win over all the people while he or she slices up the liberals and the media and sweeps the RINOs out with the trash. This perfect conservative who will knock Romney out in the first primary better show his face soon or forever be a coward. Because I see nothing but RINOs around Cain right now.

I’ll take an honest conservative over a RINO any day.


427 posted on 05/05/2011 10:57:50 PM PDT by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Coming into this debate I liked Herman Cain and Gary Johnson, willing to accept Rick Santorum. Ron Paul is alright but his foreign policy stands bother me. I didn’t care for, nor did trust Tim Pawlenty.

When the debate ended I really liked Herman Cain. I was totally turned off by Gary Johnson. His immigration stand totally lost me. Rick Santorum is still alright, but he’s part of the old guard. I still feel the same about Ron Paul and Pawlenty.

If I have to pick now, I’d go with Cain all the way. He’s new blood, which is something the GOP needs. He’s articulate, good natured, funny and fully understands government has to get out of the way for business to create jobs.

He did quite well for himself tonight and should get some notice now, so he better watch it. The media will be gunning for him now as will RINO’s like Romney and Pawlenty. I hope he has some good people on his staff preparing him for these assults.


428 posted on 05/05/2011 11:09:18 PM PDT by GR_Jr.
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To: onyx

Yes, I saw “THEE KISS”....wonder if Jimbo ever washed his face? at least saved the cloth he might have used. HA!.....Has to be one of the many highlights in his life. I always enjoying seeing those photos...they pop up at just the perfect time too.

Must admit I liked Todds photos...he really is comfortable to look at....tsk tsk...enough said.


429 posted on 05/05/2011 11:11:17 PM PDT by caww
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To: newzjunkey

Before the debate I was for Sarah Palin but Herman Cain really impressed me.

The top three in the debates in my opinion...

1. Cain
2. Santorum
3. Pawlenty


430 posted on 05/05/2011 11:20:38 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: tsowellfan

Palin wasn’t in the debate and has not said she is running. I liked Cain...not ready to rally around any candidate until I can see the lay of the land so to say....
HOWEVER there are those I absolutely will not support in the primaries. Once the candidate is chosen to run against Obama, then there is no choice but to vote for ANYONE BUT OBAMA.


431 posted on 05/05/2011 11:25:19 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: antceecee
Once the candidate is chosen to run against Obama, then there is no choice but to vote for ANYONE BUT OBAMA.

That's true. What is also true is viewers are getting to know those possible candidates they saw tonight (they do not wait for the "lay of the land") so these possible candidates are a bit like incumbents to the late arrivals such as Trump, Newt and the others. Those who really liked a particular possible candidate tonight will be paying more attention to that one. The late comers will have to work a little harder to win those votes back.

432 posted on 05/05/2011 11:32:37 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: antceecee

433 posted on 05/05/2011 11:34:21 PM PDT by tysonbam
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To: newzjunkey

You are right about Santorum. He could not even carry his home state of Pennsylvania. All his shenanigans in Pittsburg make for effective opposition ads.

And for flip-flopping, he would make Romney blush.


434 posted on 05/05/2011 11:35:12 PM PDT by saltus (God's Will be done)
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To: tsowellfan

Paul is a loon. Johnson is gay, he’s such a flamer look how he acts.Cain did great followed by Pawlenty and Santorum.IMO.


435 posted on 05/05/2011 11:44:18 PM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: llandres

Ron Paul doesn’t think we should be in the middle east. He also thinks we brought on the attacks. My understanding is Santorum is for enhanced interrogations. If not I will scratch him off the list as a candidate!


436 posted on 05/05/2011 11:56:52 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: campaignPete R-CT

What?

Palin would probably dwarf all of them. What does Mitt have that Pawlenty doesn’t btw. “oh, Mitt’s not running, Pawlenty looks ok”.

If Palin’s up there, it’s a much bigger story, a much different situation than if Mitt’s there. Mitt’s only fame, really, comes from doing this 4 years ago and doing fairly well. Mitt probably won’t lose Mormons to Pawlenty, but the average RINO could accept Pawlenty as a reasonable RINO. Romney has a lot of supporters who basically view him as a reasonable choice. Pawlenty could easily be seen as a reasonable choice, and if Romney isn’t there. Romney’s supporters don’t necessarily love Romney.


437 posted on 05/06/2011 12:06:27 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: BillyBoy

By being in the debates, Gary Johnson makes Ron Paul’s views seem more mainstream in the Republican Party. End the “war on drugs” - 40% at least, yes.

And if Gary Johnson builds a small number of supporters, if he knows that he isn’t going to win, he’ll likely endorse Ron Paul, before Iowa perhaps.


438 posted on 05/06/2011 12:13:39 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: haircutter

What are you talking about.

Much of what the tea party stands for, Ron Paul was saying in 2008. In 2007, December, Ron Paul raised in 1 day $6 Million from the Tea Party Money Bomb.

I personally don’t think there’s a father of the tea party.
Like I said, Santelli is also a pick for father of the tea party, but I really think there isn’t really one.


439 posted on 05/06/2011 12:18:07 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: GR_Jr.

Why don’t you like Pawlenty? His record as governor was pretty good and he’s a decent enough conservative.


440 posted on 05/06/2011 12:30:01 AM PDT by conservativebuckeye
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