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To: butterdezillion
Obama gave photocopies to reporters including 2 images of his alleged BC - one a copy with green security cross-hatches (of which I have not seen a copy so I don’t know if it had a seal on it or not), and one a copy on white paper, having no seal. You tell me: where did that white copy come from?

This one?

That one is AP's black and white scan of the original. The B&W scanning process wiped out the green security pattern, except for faint traces on the certificate's left edge, where the paper curled into the book binding.

Hawaii's procedure, it would seem, is to take the book down off the shelf, photocopy the appropriate page onto green security paper, apply a date stamp, Dr Onaka's declaration and signature stamp, and the official seal. I wouldn't set much store by the seal. Seals can be counterfeited, too, you know.

They really shouldn't bother issuing paper certificates. They should just scan all the certificates into a big database. Then, if someone needs their long form to get a passport or to shut up birthers, the State could just send them a URL with a big long secret number, e.g.,

https://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/?recordid=RnVjayB5b3UsIEJhcmFjayBPYmFtYSE=

Then, the applicant could submit that URL to the State Department or whomever, and they could just fetch the URL, see that it comes from Hawaii (https), and see that the certificate says the applicant was born in Honolulu, so issue the passport or STFU.

642 posted on 05/03/2011 12:29:03 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

What 6 pages were in the packet that the White House gave reporters? List the pages for me.

What makes you think the AP copied that? What scanner did they use?

And the seal is the authenticating mark. You don’t just blow off the seal. That is the equivalent of the purple ink on the finger of the Afghanistani women showing they voted. A physical mark that counts for something. Federal law says that the way the acts and records of one state are recognized as genuine so they have to be honored according to the Full Faith and Credit Clause of the Constitution is by a raised seal.

That isn’t just fluff; that is the substance. To have a “certified birth certificate” without a seal is like having a marriage without vows. As Wesley told Buttercup in “The Princess Bride”, “If you didn’t say it you didn’t do it”. If the HDOH did not put a seal on the document then they did not certify the document.


643 posted on 05/03/2011 12:38:45 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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