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To: Jeff Winston

Jeff: “As for myself, I at this point believe that it’s still plausible he was not born in Hawaii. But for that to be true, we would have to have something like a forgery and cover-up both at the State of Hawaii level and in the paperwork of Obama Sr’s immigration papers. Else that or a conspiracy early on to get the benefits of citizenship for little Barry.”

Bruce: Both of those suggestions are plausible. All it would have taken was one corrupted official with access to birth records in HI, and all of the rest of this follows directly from that. There has been a fair amount of discussion on the WND site about the looseness of standards at the Vital Stats offices in HI.

Jeff: “Or, more likely, we continue to push an issue that the rest of America is dismissing, and they ignore us as well on issues where we MIGHT be able to win - that is, Obama’s actual failures of policy.”

Bruce: Again, this could be a very apt observation of political reality. I will say this - the extreme disregard of the US Constitution by most of America on this issue is downright TROUBLING. What that leads to in my mind is an utter breakdown of the Constitutional rule of law. Why should anyone respect or fear the strictures of that (’living’) document?


710 posted on 05/01/2011 10:13:50 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (Tea Party like it's 1773! Repeal the Federal Reserve Act of 1913! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: SeattleBruce

I agree with everything you said.

As for disregard of the Constitution, we’re already a good distance down that road. I think it began significantly with Lincoln, who pretty clearly established that joining the Union, whatever a State’s grievances might be, was a one-way road, on penalty of death.

We took another big step in that direction when the Supreme Court ruled that the federal government had the authority to regulate just about anything it wanted to, under the excuse of the “commerce clause.”

Now we’re sliding closer and closer to just a simple disregard for the Constitution.

Fortunately, it’s not entirely in the wrong direction. We’ve made gains in the past few decades, for example, in the area of respecting the 2nd Amendment. So there is at least some hope.


744 posted on 05/01/2011 11:54:34 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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