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Expert: No Doubt Obama's Birth Certificate Is Legit
Fox News ^ | 4/29/11 | Jana Winter

Posted on 04/29/2011 5:52:16 PM PDT by Nachum

It didn’t take long for some of President Obama’s doubters to claim the long-awaited birth certificate posted online by the White House on Wednesday had been altered or might be a fake.

But a leading software expert says there’s no doubt about its authenticity, and he dismisses claims of fraud as flat-out wrong.

The doubters have latched onto the idea that Adobe Illustrator — the premier program for computer graphic artists — “reveals” evidence of document manipulation in the Obama birth certificate. They note Illustrator reveals nine separate layers of the document, and claim it’s “proof” the file has been altered.

But that’s not so, says Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator.

“You should not be so suspicious about this,” Tremblay told FoxNews.com, dismissing the allegations.

Related Links Obama Birth Certificate Moved to More Secure Location Months Ago

He said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery. “I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

Tremblay explained that the scanner optical character recognition (OCR) software attempts to translate characters or words in a photograph into text. He said the layers cited by the doubters shows that software at work – and nothing more.

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KEYWORDS: birth; birthcertificate; bsexpert; certificate; certifigate; colbfake; expert; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamas
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To: Nachum

“In short, he is a paid Obama hack.”

No he’s not — he’s a hockey player that’s been dead for seventeen years.

Jean-Claude Tremblay (January 22, 1939 – December 7, 1994) was an ice hockey defenceman for the NHL Montreal Canadiens and the WHA Quebec Nordiques, notable for playmaking and defensive skills.


621 posted on 04/30/2011 5:35:04 PM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: Wake to the Truth
"Those numbers can't be seen unless you separate the pieces. "

Negative. If we wouldn't be able to see the denser heavier characters, which ARE separated, how is it all those lesser characters that were not processed remain perfectly visible on the background layer? For comparison check out the unprocessed AP version of the same document.

"Second, you haven't even addressed where those stray numbers come from.

Yes I did. In fact I did so first.

"You believe any of regular black letters and numbers weren't picked up by OCR but two hand written signatures where? "

I have never stated the irregularities of this document resulted from OCR. At least not a completed OCR process. Prior to OCR you'd want to clean up the doc as much as possible so the software can recognize enough pixels to select a corresponding font and make the document searchable. Something that would be SOP in any office that receives multiple documents a day. Say an Attorneys office for example.

"Those white specs if on the scanner glass would have just blocked out anything being scanned, not be scanned themselves. "

This is interesting. If those artifacts were from, say some white out specs, on the xerox at the HDOH, they would indeed have shown up as black on the safety paper printout. But if the were on the scanner at the WH, they would have been scanned as white. I just tested this. However there would be matching areas missing from the background layer.

I've found these white artifacts to be the one thing which is not yet feasibly explained.

"If the mono/color problem happened with software as you say it would not have picked up half a signature nor would it have been turned into an image file. "

Negative. Those layers are not monochrome. They are simply separate color layers -whose colors happen to be black and white- of a color image. And nefarious or not whatever happened was the result of software. I could create a file identical to the WH version in 15 minutes or so using Photoshops magic wand and a few filter passes.

Thing is any graphic artist worth his salt would not use that tool. So either this was done by a complete noob or some half-assed default scanning software selection .

622 posted on 04/30/2011 5:38:02 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: Exmil_UK; Red Steel

RS - I’m sure you’ve read everything you can handle about the bc stuff - but Exmil_UK’s comments are concise and make excellent sends (Exmil - I always like your comments as far as I can remember!).


623 posted on 04/30/2011 5:39:14 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Don Corleone
"If the gang at Langley can't do better than that its no wonder that the intel we get is so damned poor. What a bunch of amateurs."

Maybe they didn't want to do a completely 'professional' job?

Oops?

624 posted on 04/30/2011 5:40:34 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: cherokee1; LucyT; Red Steel

Interesting comment from a freeper in HI who had kids when Zero was born and has experience with HI birth certificates.


625 posted on 04/30/2011 5:41:49 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Brown Deer

B.D.:”There is no inconsistency at all. He used the date of June 18, 1934 from the time that he entered the U.S. until he left Hawaii. Everything after Hawaii in mid 1962 shows 1936.”

Hmmmmm. Do you seriously know what the word inconsistency means?? Just to save you time, I will include the definition below:

inconsistent

— adj
1. lacking in consistency, agreement, or compatibility; at variance
2. containing contradictory elements
3. irregular or fickle in behaviour or mood

Besides, he obviously told his “wife” (SAD) that he was born in 1936 since that was the age she entered into the B.C. Obama Sr. obviously learned how to lie while living in Hawaii...


626 posted on 04/30/2011 5:44:35 PM PDT by visually_augmented (I was blind, but now I see)
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To: Flash Bazbeaux

No he’s not — he’s a hockey player that’s been dead for seventeen years.

uh oh is this evidence of the time travel phenomenon?


627 posted on 04/30/2011 5:45:38 PM PDT by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: visually_augmented

Besides, he obviously told his “wife” (SAD) that he was born in 1936 since that was the age she entered into the B.C.

yes 1936 is on the Lucas Smith Kenya -Obama birth certificate, is it too much to think he wanted the 18 year old to think he was younger? Is it possible Obie Junior inherited Obie Seniors lack of veracity?


628 posted on 04/30/2011 5:49:09 PM PDT by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: visually_augmented
Besides, he obviously told his “wife” (SAD) that he was born in 1936 since that was the age she entered into the B.C.

What makes you believe that? You have absolutely no clue, as to what she entered.
629 posted on 04/30/2011 5:52:15 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Revolting cat!
Dismiss this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcWQw2AAIho (It’s a CONSPIRACY!)


Obama Birth Certificate Scam? 2011-04-27 Obama.mp4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eOfYwYyS_c

I just saw this one. You are right.
This one deserves it's own thread.

He does an excellent analysis!!!!

630 posted on 04/30/2011 5:53:17 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: daisy mae for the usa

not enough info to tell what that is
it could be the OCR sofware you used just seemed to think there was an 01 next to it, or it could be an embedded code... it is not an avenue of investication that will provide anything useful


631 posted on 04/30/2011 5:54:25 PM PDT by Mr. K (this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
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To: Mr. K

OK. Thanks!


632 posted on 04/30/2011 5:59:04 PM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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To: Mr. K

I’m sorry to trouble you further, but if you could indulge me just a bit more, I sure would appreciate it! Promise this is the last question. Is it possible to take one of these “layers” and see if it has layers?


633 posted on 04/30/2011 6:02:01 PM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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To: little jeremiah

more news
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/busted-white-house-now-claims-they.html


634 posted on 04/30/2011 6:12:23 PM PDT by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: SteamShovel

Yes, that is the bottom line. Pretty direct isn’t it.


635 posted on 04/30/2011 6:15:32 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: little jeremiah

Yes, I’ve read recently the green security paper was not used by Hawaii in 1961 but started sometime in the mid to late 60s. More things out of place with Obama’s “new” spanking COLB.


636 posted on 04/30/2011 6:22:33 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: over3Owithabrain
So why does it say abstract and why the need for something other than an exact copy?

Because there is not a document to do a direct copy from. He never received a legit Certificate of Live Birth. My guess is that he made an application and it was not approved because inadequate proof was given so they never acted on it. He has faked his way through life to this point. Somebody finally found a way to display both approved and application files in the system and printed the "abstract", which is only meant to disceive us. hee hee hee Good luck Charlie Brown

637 posted on 04/30/2011 6:24:36 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: visually_augmented

con·sist·ent /kənˈsistənt/ Adjective

1. (of a person, behavior, or process) Unchanging in achievement or effect over a period of time.
638 posted on 04/30/2011 6:25:03 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: daisy mae for the usa

no - none of these layers have additional layers- I have never tried that though...


639 posted on 04/30/2011 6:30:39 PM PDT by Mr. K (this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
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To: LucyT


640 posted on 04/30/2011 6:30:42 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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