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Expert: No Doubt Obama's Birth Certificate Is Legit
Fox News ^ | 4/29/11 | Jana Winter

Posted on 04/29/2011 5:52:16 PM PDT by Nachum

It didn’t take long for some of President Obama’s doubters to claim the long-awaited birth certificate posted online by the White House on Wednesday had been altered or might be a fake.

But a leading software expert says there’s no doubt about its authenticity, and he dismisses claims of fraud as flat-out wrong.

The doubters have latched onto the idea that Adobe Illustrator — the premier program for computer graphic artists — “reveals” evidence of document manipulation in the Obama birth certificate. They note Illustrator reveals nine separate layers of the document, and claim it’s “proof” the file has been altered.

But that’s not so, says Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator.

“You should not be so suspicious about this,” Tremblay told FoxNews.com, dismissing the allegations.

Related Links Obama Birth Certificate Moved to More Secure Location Months Ago

He said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery. “I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

Tremblay explained that the scanner optical character recognition (OCR) software attempts to translate characters or words in a photograph into text. He said the layers cited by the doubters shows that software at work – and nothing more.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birth; birthcertificate; bsexpert; certificate; certifigate; colbfake; expert; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamas
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To: bluecat6

Yeah, I think that’s better.

They sent “Something”. I’m wrong there.

But they cannot comment about edits made, either.


321 posted on 04/29/2011 10:50:05 PM PDT by EvasiveManuever (Shakespeare got it wrong. Not the lawyers... journalists.)
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To: butterdezillion

I doubt the Hawaii DoH would have released Obama’s LFBC from an online request. Too much risk involved.

Obama issued his request letter on Friday. The HDoH said they could make it available on Monday. Obama couldn’t go himself likely because he’s busy and likely because it would have caused a big stir if he went to get it himself. (They kept this wole thing a secret until the 27th.) So his attorney was given authorization to act on his behalf and complete any necessary forms that the HDoH required.

Obama wanted to release the documents as soon after obtaining them as possible to avoid forgery claims (yeah, that worked out well for him.) So his attorney picked them up by hand and flew them to the WH. The docs were shown to the WHPC early Tuesday morning. Fed Ex would have been slower not faster as some claim on this thread.


322 posted on 04/29/2011 10:50:34 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: Herbster
Found this on another thread regarding Adobe Bridge.

Adobe Bridge (comes free with both Flash and Dreamweaver)

323 posted on 04/29/2011 10:51:47 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: EvasiveManuever

As I understand it, other Hawaii BCs have been shown in the past couple of days that also have that registrar’s name/signature.


324 posted on 04/29/2011 10:53:37 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: Brown Deer

*ucktooth does nothing but play.


325 posted on 04/29/2011 10:58:33 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: =8 mrrabbit 8=

Yes.

That and it shows he’s not a Natural Born Citizen, bc Father is not American, owed loyalty to Britain. Spelled out in the INS file, even. Directly.

Doesn’t matter where he was born. He’s not NBC.

He could have been born at 1600 Penn. Ave, and he’s not NBC.

But that’s a more complex argument to get through to the masses. Altering documents, people get.


326 posted on 04/29/2011 11:02:02 PM PDT by EvasiveManuever (Shakespeare got it wrong. Not the lawyers... journalists.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Thanks. I really appreciate you finding that for me.

Right-click on that “photo” of what Obama showed the press and copy it into Word (or some other program) and save it as a PDF so you can magnify it. Tell me if you see any signs of a raised seal on it.


327 posted on 04/29/2011 11:03:04 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Your disgusting and arrogant support of the 0bama administration is really accelerating. You think anyone on FR doesn’t know what you’re about?

The only way you would know if they were physical sheets of paper is if you had them in your hand the moement they “arrived”.

You trust the thugs in the White House to tell the truth and you support them with every comment you make. That, or you know they’re lying but your loyalty (and maybe job) is more important than truth.


328 posted on 04/29/2011 11:03:08 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
I doubt the Hawaii DoH would have released Obama’s LFBC from an online request. Too much risk involved. Obama issued his request letter on Friday. The HDoH said they could make it available on Monday. Obama couldn’t go himself likely because he’s busy and likely because it would have caused a big stir if he went to get it himself. (They kept this wole thing a secret until the 27th.) So his attorney was given authorization to act on his behalf and complete any necessary forms that the HDoH required. Obama wanted to release the documents as soon after obtaining them as possible to avoid forgery claims (yeah, that worked out well for him.) So his attorney picked them up by hand and flew them to the WH. The docs were shown to the WHPC early Tuesday morning. Fed Ex would have been slower not faster as some claim on this thread.

You sure do write like you are on the inside of this hide and seek drama. BamBamKennedy has had years to release his historical documentation and has NOT.

329 posted on 04/29/2011 11:04:20 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: butterdezillion

The academic advisor was a foreign student advisor to whom Obama was required to report in order to get and file paperwork as indicated by his/her signature on INS documents. He had one FSA in Hawaii and one at Harvard. The FSA was directly involved in the filing of Obama’s INS paperwork.

No, I’m sure the FSA didn’t request a BC. I’m sure she took his word about it. When the FSA in Hawai found out Obama was married and had a child, she wrote to the INS about her concerns and asked them to do a thorough investigation into the marriage before granting Sr. an extension. So she obviously didn’t trust Sr. either. And neither did the FSA at Harvard.


330 posted on 04/29/2011 11:06:09 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
As I understand it, other Hawaii BCs have been shown in the past couple of days that also have that registrar’s name/signature.

I'm not doubting he was a registrar. I'm doubting he was AT The Kapoloni hospital. Was he, yes or no?

Do you know of ANY BC (or other work of fiction) that contains LEE's name and "Kapoliani" hospital????

If so, link to it.

331 posted on 04/29/2011 11:08:04 PM PDT by EvasiveManuever (Shakespeare got it wrong. Not the lawyers... journalists.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
As I understand it, other Hawaii BCs have been shown in the past couple of days that also have that registrar’s name/signature.

I'm not doubting he was a registrar. I'm doubting he was AT The Kapoloni hospital. Was he, yes or no?

Do you know of ANY BC (or other work of fiction) that contains LEE's name and "Kapoliani" hospital????

If so, link to it.

332 posted on 04/29/2011 11:08:09 PM PDT by EvasiveManuever (Shakespeare got it wrong. Not the lawyers... journalists.)
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To: little jeremiah

That’s beginning to be a bit obvious.


333 posted on 04/29/2011 11:08:46 PM PDT by EvasiveManuever (Shakespeare got it wrong. Not the lawyers... journalists.)
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To: Just mythoughts

No, I just read a lot more data than birthers do. Everything I wrote that you quoted I obtained from news articles online, except for the speculation on whether or not the HDoH would have released anything from an online request and that Fed Ex would have been slower.

Usually when I present evidence or speculate from a position of reason, I get called all sorts of names by birthers because they have no other response. Same this time.


334 posted on 04/29/2011 11:13:52 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: Revolting cat!
Bilderbergers done it. No, the Masons. Or maybe the elders of Zion? I know, the Scientologists.

Is Free Republic becoming the birther tinfoil conspiracy central?

Instead of making snide comments, do you have the answer to the simple question of does Adobe Bridge show what this comment purports it to show ?

335 posted on 04/29/2011 11:15:04 PM PDT by TheCipher
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To: EvasiveManuever; little jeremiah; bushpilot1

Obama Boot Licker award?

336 posted on 04/29/2011 11:15:42 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: Just mythoughts

Seriously come on man!

Don’t you see? This has been a MAJOR distraction for the preZ, so much so that he had to fly lawyers out to Hawaii while he was eating Ice cream at the golf course!/sarc

If I had to produce mine I would just go to where I store it in my house...


337 posted on 04/29/2011 11:21:13 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
I doubt the Hawaii DoH would have released Obama’s LFBC from an online request. Too much risk involved. Obama issued his request letter on Friday. The HDoH said they could make it available on Monday. Obama couldn’t go himself likely because he’s busy and likely because it would have caused a big stir if he went to get it himself. (They kept this wole thing a secret until the 27th.) So his attorney was given authorization to act on his behalf and complete any necessary forms that the HDoH required. Obama wanted to release the documents as soon after obtaining them as possible to avoid forgery claims (yeah, that worked out well for him.) So his attorney picked them up by hand and flew them to the WH. The docs were shown to the WHPC early Tuesday morning. Fed Ex would have been slower not faster as some claim on this thread.

SOURCE this.

No, I just read a lot more data than birthers do. Everything I wrote that you quoted I obtained from news articles online, except for the speculation on whether or not the HDoH would have released anything from an online request and that Fed Ex would have been slower. Usually when I present evidence or speculate from a position of reason, I get called all sorts of names by birthers because they have no other response. Same this time.

I hardly call what the 'jon stewart' media spews as evidence. Now normal people have direct access to their birth certificates and they do NOT have to hire lawyers to fly hours to get some state agency to produce a copy. IT is not as IF this guy has had NO clue people were clamoring about him producing his origins. But you just carry on carrying his water and doing the very thing that you continue to accuse others of doing to you. Personally I think you are a hoax.

338 posted on 04/29/2011 11:23:19 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: mlo

339 posted on 04/29/2011 11:24:03 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: EvasiveManuever

It does not show that he is not a natural born citizen.

Without the required embossed, dated and signed seal - the “document” supposedly released by the Whitehouse

shows

absolutely

nothing

...because it cannot be used to certify anything AGAINST OR FOR Obama.

Its only value is as a public opinion manipulation piece...nothing more. In this case...it seems to be working with of course the help of the mainstream media that is already in the tank for Obama.

Until the following has happened:

1. Applicable registrars release certified documents with the included requried seal upon request -

2. Applicable registrars are forced to open the files/records containing such certified documents with required seals under a subpoena required by a judge -

3. Obama is forced to release his certifed copies with the required seals under subpoena OR just plain gives up and spills the beans -

WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! PERIOD!

Even Leo Donofrio who’d rather not go this route has touched upon the above at least once. Notice where the efforts of Butter, Tickly and a couple others have been these past couple years:

Exactly what I just laid out above. Butter and Co. get it. Most of the Freepers here seem to not get it and keep wasting their time with smudges, spacing, alignment, etc. on a document that has no visible required seal.

=8-)


340 posted on 04/29/2011 11:25:05 PM PDT by =8 mrrabbit 8=
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