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Graphics pros challenge Obama birth certificate
WND ^ | April 28, 2011 | WND

Posted on 04/28/2011 9:51:43 PM PDT by RobinMasters

The most common challenge to the authenticity of the long-form birth certificate released this week by President Obama that is circulating on the Internet focuses on the layers of images discovered when opening the document in computer image programs such as Adobe Illustrator.

While there may be other challenges to the document's authenticity that bear further scrutiny, it appears that the "layer argument" can be easily explained.

Graphic artists who addressed the issue on blogs and Web forums point out that the format in which Obama's document was released, Portable Document Format, or PDF, is composed of multiple images.

Tests on other PDF images produce an effect similar to the multiple layers extracted from Obama's document.

Hawaii Department of Health spokeswoman Janet Okubo explained to WND in an email that the certified copy issued to Obama is a photocopy on safety paper "of the original Certificate of Live Birth."

She confirmed the state's previous statement that Department of Health Director Linda Fuddy "personally witnessed the copying of the original Certificate of Live Birth and attested to the authenticity of the two copies."

Okubo added that Alvin Onaka, the state registrar, whose signature is on the Obama document, "certified the copies."

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama; officialbcrelease
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

>Why is anyone accepting this?<

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Congress certainly is, so it must be genuine.


21 posted on 04/28/2011 10:47:02 PM PDT by 353FMG (The M1911 is mightier than the sword.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
So I guess Farah has decided to keep it going...what a despicable human being.

I disagree. He's got Corsi's new book to push. And besides, with more investigation there really may be further revelations. I say let'em have at it. For the rest of us, let's focus on the Obama reality we know (dragging the country down to a third-world country) rather than trying to find out what we don't know.

22 posted on 04/28/2011 10:47:46 PM PDT by CedarDave (Obama's energy policy: Take unicorn poop and turn it into renewable energy.)
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To: Cobra64

The Constitution, y’know.


23 posted on 04/28/2011 10:51:17 PM PDT by saltus (God's Will be done)
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To: Cobra64
Some day soon we will get to vote for the bastard son of some harem master.
24 posted on 04/28/2011 11:05:23 PM PDT by justrepublican (Screaming like a "Vexatious requester" at a Wellstone memorial...........)
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To: RobinMasters

Someone knew this fraud would be detected. It was too obvious to go undetected, so I believe that an insider just shanked Obama.

In addition to the graphic problem, there’s another huge tell. If you compare the newly released document with the Kenyan birth certificate Lucas Smith supposedly obtained you will notice they both have signatures dated 8/7 and 8/8 for a birth on 8/4. That information wasn’t on his COLB. That could not have been put together by Lucas Smith from other sources because that was unknown until YESTERDAY. No, those responsible for creating the new document gleaned their information from the Kenyan birth certificate. Either that or the Kenyan birth certificate was the source of the information recorded by Hawaii in 1961.

If you don’t believe that’s significant you have to believe it was pure coincidence that these documents have separate, but different, matching signature dates. The odds of that are quite slim.

Obama has been set up.


25 posted on 04/28/2011 11:20:38 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: RobinMasters; cartan
This report, if accurate, tells us what HI provided, precisely. This is useful info:

a photocopy on safety paper "of the original Certificate of Live Birth."

The first thing I wonder about is the background of the original. Why isn't the background, off white, pattern, whatever, on the photocopy instead of the safety paper throughout?

I assume the "original certificate" is not black on clear film? Could the photocopier have been set to a level of black, effectively removing the background? Also, the safety paper background underneath the scan is not as sharp as outside. The pattern matches, but not the sharpness.

One last question: wouldn't a photocopier produce some chromatic aberration? There is none on the file.

26 posted on 04/28/2011 11:25:54 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: _Jim

Thanks....very interesting.


27 posted on 04/28/2011 11:45:32 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: Tex-Con-Man

You’ve been an Obama bootlicker from the beginning.


28 posted on 04/28/2011 11:59:11 PM PDT by conservativebuckeye
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To: RobinMasters

PLEASE!!!!!

STFU ABOUT THIS POS document. It’s valid.(well, sort of)

However, it is not the the document we have been demanding.

We want to see:

The one in his admittance records to the school system.

The one he used for his passport

The one he found among his mother’s belongings upon her death in 1995. He mused about it in “Dreams of my father” so it must be important.

In fact, he wondered what the significance of it was.

This crap has to stop and people have to look at what he has already freely admitted.

He was born a dual citizen. Don’t blame me, Barack freely admits as much.

He has freely admitted to being in possession of the above said documents. Where are they?

They guy has told you everything you want or need to know and many have decided to resort to conjecture and knee jerk presumptions and assumptions.

Get over yourselves.

The Kenyan has already revealed himself you all are making yourselves look stoopid and I know you are not.

Stop being so gullible.


29 posted on 04/29/2011 12:16:30 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: Inyo-Mono

You guys have got to stop with this crap. I too am pretty good at graphics programs and spotting a fraud.

However, there a million reasons why those artifacts exists.

The State of Hawaii issued a document.

It is valid.

It is not the document we want.

We want:

The one his mother submitted when Barack entered the school system.

The one he used for a passport.

The one he found amongst his mother’s belongings.

####

He has those in his possession or under his control!!!

They are the only documents we care about.

Why didn’t he just release one of those that all Americans would recognize?


30 posted on 04/29/2011 12:20:48 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: .45 Long Colt

Please stop this CRAP.

I am one of the biggest birthers here and your points aren’t even close to being valid.

If you want more info or backup ask me or anyone around here.

Everyone knows me and my stance.

Scuuu this document. Whatever the supposed issue is with it the problem is “This document supposedly never existed, in the first place!”

They have been telling us for 4 years the COLB is the only document Hawaii issues. Really? Well, apparently that ain’t so, all of the sudden.

Supposedly, you can’t get anything but the previously proffered COLB. This document proves they are full Shiite.

Supposedly, you get a copy of an original Birth Certificate. However, if you read the Hawaii statute 318 you can, in fact, obtain a copy of the original. It just takes 6-8 weeks.

The document from yesterday is valid but there is no reason to submit it when Barack has a copy or copies of the original.

Let’s see even one and then let’s hear the explanation.

The more time ya gotta explain sumpin the worser yuh lyze getz....


31 posted on 04/29/2011 12:29:39 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: conservativebuckeye; Tex-Con-Man

TCM is a great poster and while we don’t always agree(cuz i’m an Okie) we ain’t ever disagreeable.

You ain’t right in the head for that caustic commentary.

BTW, the only reason Texas doesn’t fall into the Gulf of Mexico is because Oklahoma sucks.

Geography joke!


32 posted on 04/29/2011 12:33:24 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: D-fendr
Thanks for the ping!
[…] a photocopy on safety paper “of the original Certificate of Live Birth.”

One last question: wouldn’t a photocopier produce some chromatic aberration? There is none on the file.

Yes, I do not understand, either, how exactly they produced that copy. Apparently they put the paper with the green security pattern into a black-and-white photocopier, but I am not sure what (and how) exactly they put on the photocopier to make the copy.
33 posted on 04/29/2011 12:38:10 AM PDT by cartan
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To: conservativebuckeye

I agree with you. I’ve been reading CON’s posts for years.


34 posted on 04/29/2011 12:39:52 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Vendome

He is doing everything he can to divide and run down this forum.


35 posted on 04/29/2011 1:53:13 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: _Jim
Thanks for Posting this MUST SEE VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2L5a_KS6iw

The WHITEHOUSE DOC is COMPUTER ASSEMBLED as opposed to what the AP got.

This is not to mention the UK L Lee signature issue on the bottom of the document. Nor the issue that his grandmother said she was present at his birth in Keyna.

"Obama's family did not take to Stanley Ann Dunham Obama very well, because she was white, according to Sarah Obama. Shortly after she arrived in Kenya Stanley Ann decided to return to Hawaii because she later said, she did not like how Muslim men treated their wives in Kenya. However, because she was near term the airline would not let her fly until after the birth of her baby. Obama's grandmother said the baby—Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.—was born in Kenya and that shortly after he was born, Stanley Ann returned to Hawaii."

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Blogs/Message.aspx/3074

36 posted on 04/29/2011 1:58:31 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: douginthearmy
They still want the original source document. The "system" in place has all the material that was in the source document. They received a picture of it.

Did you know the courts were bandying about the validity of photographic derived evidence for most of a century. There's no end to this.

Obama's got a couple of handlers now who imagine there's some value in releasing this.

37 posted on 04/29/2011 4:46:16 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: conservativebuckeye
You’ve been an Obama bootlicker from the beginning.

So for you...accepting reality and not entertaining cynically promoted conspiracy theories makes one an Obama bootlicker?

And I suppose Trump would qualify as a conservative?

38 posted on 04/29/2011 4:46:27 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: RobinMasters
COLBHEAP
39 posted on 04/29/2011 5:23:18 AM PDT by FrankR (A people that values its privileges above its principles will soon lose both.)
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To: douginthearmy
That is a little unfair... everyone who has followed this issue can feel it in their gut that there is something not right here in the Obama story, and that is hard to let go of. And there is somethings not right about his story, and it makes us question everything. Im not sure the birth is the issue now, but there dozens of other untold facts between the day he was born and the day he was elected...lots of lies if not fraud, and I give a lot of credit to everyone trying hard to uncover this story.
40 posted on 04/29/2011 6:06:33 AM PDT by polstar123
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