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To: AppyPappy
“Salvation is entirely a gift from God.”

... The Biblical view is that repentance is a fruit of Salvation but there is no quid pro quo. “If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and make a liar out of God”.

You seem to be a Calvinist. Whereas I believe in free will. So we will end up discussing this and making no progress whatsoever while dragging this thread off topic.

So rather than go that route, can we agree that someone who identifies themselves as being proud of their sin (That is they call evil good) cannot possibly be a follower of Christ. A follower of Christ (a Christian) would be turning away from their sin and turning towards Christ.

147 posted on 04/28/2011 6:39:09 PM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: John O

I would say that a follower of Christ is a follower of Christ and that Sanctification is an ongoing process. Repentance comes through Salvation but it may not be immediate. You are not Saved by your abstinence from sin.

My experience is that if you push people against their sin, they will be forced to make a decision between sin and Salvation. The modern church does not do that.


185 posted on 04/29/2011 4:49:49 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: John O

I would also say that a follower of Christ would be growing. That’s why I am suspicious of “unChurched Christians”. They are usually eschewing church because someone once condemned their own personal sin or they discovered the real God didn’t match their version of Him.

I find a lot of Universal Salvation types avoid church for the latter reason.


228 posted on 04/29/2011 10:24:55 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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