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To: butterdezillion

And just how many Kapiolani BCs have you seen? What are the hard facts behind your assertion?


1,169 posted on 04/27/2011 1:54:23 PM PDT by Coyotehockey
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To: Coyotehockey

The hard facts that support what I’ve concluded are

1) “Public Health Regulations, Chapter 8”, which gives the required procedure of the local registrars on Oahu collecting BC’s submitted to them for a week and then submitting them to the HDOH’s office. This was important for the hospitals to observe because the law required all births to be registered within a week after the birth.

2) All but one of the non-Obama Kapiolani long-forms within the past 75 years that are available on the web (I believe there are about 6 or 7) showing a Friday submittal to the state registrar, and

3) The one that doesn’t show a Friday submittal showing a Thursday submittal after Friday fell on Christmas Eve with offices closed and the next Friday was going to be closed also for New Year’s Eve. So the BC was submitted on the Thursday between Christmas Eve and New Year’s Eve even though it was almost a couple weeks old by then, because if they waited for the next Friday those BC’s would have sat in the office for 3 weeks before getting to the state registrar’s office. If there hadn’t been a Friday routine, I’d expect them to catch up on Friday work that had been missed by doing it the following Monday, as soon as offices were open.

I believe this was a hospital routine and not just the routine of the local registrar because the BC’s were almost always signed by the doctor the same day as they were submitted to the local and state registrar. So the hospital didn’t keep a steady stream of BC’s coming in to the registrar’s office all week long, but kept them until the day they were to be submitted, had the doctors sign them, and then sent them to the registrar - like all the paperwork would be done on that one day as a simple, order-keeping routine that was only upset when that day of the week happened to be a state or national holiday.

But even if it wasn’t a hospital routine - even if the hospitals DID have a constant stream of BC’s going to the local registrar, what mattered for numbering purposes was the date that the HDOH received the BC’s and gave them a number - which Okubo says is what the “date filed” refers to.


1,335 posted on 04/27/2011 8:38:38 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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