[DCBryan1]

Hopefully Buckhead can see if it is fake ;)

[teeman8r]

shows he is not a “natural born citizen”... with american parents...

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[fatima]

Boy he must be really ticked at Trump.

[Mr. Peabody]

OK let’s move on to the other things he’s been hiding.

Where’s the academic record Barry? Cough it up!

[Gaffer]

You can google David Sinclair Honolulu and come up with a "my life" link that says he's 89 years old now.

I dunno, it looks like one should. Kinda new looking, but that might be because it's been filed all these years. The one big question I have is what in the world is going on with the left side of the certificate? It looks like it's been cut an inch or so and folded back under the rest of the paper....just looks odd. Outside of her having him at 18, pregnant at 17 and under age, don't see anything else to question....unless it's proven a fake, I'll have to accept it and move on.

[Uncle Miltie]

His obituary from the Honolulu Star-Bulletin reads:

Dr. David A. Sinclair, 81, of Honolulu , a retired physician, died Aug. 20, 2003, at home. He was born in Portland , Ore. He is survived by wife Ivalee; sons David, Karl and Brian; daughters Margaret Peterson, Rebekah Luke and Ruth and Katherine Sinclair; 11 grandchildren; and one great-grandchild. Services: 5:30 p.m. Wednesday at Central Union Church Atherton Chapel. Call after 4:30 p.m. Aloha attire. No flowers. Donations suggested to Alzheimer’s Association of Hawaii.

http://archives.starbulletin.com/2003/08/24/news/obits.html

[old and tired]

Does anybody know what the birth certificates of children with a parent who is not a legal resident say on them?

I'm wondering if they say something to the effect of "this document is not proof of citizenship"? That is what American birth certificates of internationally adopted children say.

[wardaddy]

So he spent 2-3 million bucks not to show something he just coulda shown when asked like anyone else has to do for passports, college admissions etc?

Did he think he could use it to make us look stupid?

Well contrary to Beltway views it makes him look conniving or too clever by half...not us stupid.

And why the blackout on all school records too?

Say what you like about Trump...at least he is engaging the One.

[Khepri]

So the issue really is THE FATHER...(please note I haven't read all 600+ messages yet)

See here

There is nothing vague about the term natural born citizen and the issue is Obama's birth father, not his birth place -- His dual and divided loyalties, which he has demonstrated every day since taking office.

It is well known that the Founders borrowed the term from the Law of Nations and the historical definition of the term is indisputable based upon four simple statements dating back to the mid-1700s.

. natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.

. those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.

. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens

. in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.

This is the definition of natural born citizen and CNN along with every other press outlet, member of congress and U.S. Supreme Court know it.

Of course, this means that no matter where on earth Obama may have been born, he is not a natural born citizen and they all know this too. Obama's stated natural birth father is Barack Hussein Obama of Kenya, who was at no time in his life a citizen of the United States. Since natural-born citizenship follows the bloodline of the father, Obama II cannot be a natural born citizen of the Unites States no matter where he was born.

[Smokeyblue]

Is this the doctor?

Obituaries
Sunday, August 24, 2003
Honolulu Star Bulletin

Dr. David A. Sinclair, 81, of Honolulu, a retired physician, died Aug. 20, 2003, at home. He was born in Portland, Ore. He is survived by wife Ivalee; sons David, Karl and Brian; daughters Margaret Peterson, Rebekah Luke and Ruth and Katherine Sinclair; 11 grandchildren; and one great-grandchild. Services: 5:30 p.m. Wednesday at Central Union Church Atherton Chapel. Call after 4:30 p.m. Aloha attire. No flowers. Donations suggested to Alzheimer’s Association of Hawaii.

http://archives.starbulletin.com/2003/08/24/news/obits.html

[TexasCajun]

I saw this post on The Smoking Gun:

Try the following: Save off a copy of the exact PDF file the White House has released as Obama's birth certificate this morning. Find yourself a copy of Adobe Illustrator (not Photoshop), and load up the PDF file in Illustrator. Then click on the center of the image of the birth certificate, then right-click on the center of the image, and click Release Clipping Mask. Have fun...

Maybe some freeper can tell us what this means?

[Hoffer Rand]

His original story was that there was “something embarrassing” on the long form and that was why he didn’t want it released. I don’t see anything embarrassing on this, do you? So, was he lying then, or has the original been altered?

[origins9622]

I will believe it until I see the ORIGINAL BC, not the copy one.

[freakboy]

Here’s what’s weird. IF they scanned in the original and then printed it on the security paper and stopped there, there would be no white around the text. Most printers don’t have white ink. Any white in the original would simply show up as the green/yellow background on the paper. They must have digitally added the white later to make it more legible. I believe this is legit, but they aren’t doing themselves any favors by digitally altering the document (even if just to make it more legible).

[Art in Idaho]

Eleanor Nordyke with her kids BCs Here.

The stuff on the bottom, signatures, etc, Not on Obama's document.

So, Now What?

[matt1234]

This BC is obviously a fake. The signatures of the three wise men are missing.

[mandaladon]

Explain this: These twins were born on Aug 5 1961 a day before Obama, but look at the file number on the upper right corner it's 61-10637 and 61-10638 it goes in ascending order according to the time of birth, however in Obama's case you notice he was born on Aug 4 1961 a day before the twins, yet his file number is 61-10641. It seems he should've had a LOWER file number than the twins. It could be a clerical error,but it's a discrepancy nevertheless .

[mike182d]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2711164/posts?page=325#325

[navysealdad]

What is the font on the certificate?

[Scanian]

Immaterial.

That document, real or fake, doesn’t change the fact that Obama Sr. was NOT a US citizen and thus Hussein cannot be a natural born citizen eligible to run for president.

[Yet_Again]

According to the (liberal) Huffington Post, Barry Obama was Barry Obama till +/- 1980.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/23/why-did-obama-change-his-_n_92944.html

Why then does his birth certificate say his name is “Barack Obama”?

I understand that when you are adopted, that your birth certificate is altered to reflect the name of your adoptive parents. Is this also the case if you change your name? Or is this “long form” fradulent?