Posted on 04/26/2011 6:54:27 PM PDT by Ordinary_American
Nevertheless, there is one thing that I dont quite understand.
On the Certification of Live Birth (COLB), now widely available on the internet, Obamas fathers race is listed as African.
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For the sake of argument, lets say that the terminology is peculiar to Hawaii and Obama filed a Late Certificate of Birth or perhaps his documents were updated in recent years.
In that case, the publicly available COLB must reflect what is written on the source birth documents, even updated ones.
In Appendix B Hawaii Model Standard for Clustering Race/Ethnicity Categories contained in an article published in 2003 by employees of the Hawaii Department of Health, the word African appears as an Aggregated Ethnic Group under the race category Black (non-Hispanic). That differs from the categories in Appendix A, which apparently represented an earlier version and did not contain the word African.
Unless I am mistaken, that information might suggest that Barack Obamas birth data were updated around 2003 or thereafter.
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“It was Jesse Jackson who demanded that Blacks be called that, only a few decades ago.”
Yea, I suspected that JJ was part of the move to change.
I think “colored” is, and always has been the best description.
Why else would the NAALCP have chosen it?
It also fits mixed, or mulatos, as NEGRO does not fit all colored/mixed. It would fit Obama.
It was the common term in Memphis when I was growing up.
I see nothing derogatory with the term.
In South Africa, the races have been and still are broken down to white/colored ( mulattoes and Indians/other Asians ), and blacks.
America never did that, though mulatto has been used for centuries, as has octoroon and other such breakdowns for how many white ancestors a black had/has.
Prove it.
Hint: it's about only slightly more likely to be true than the fact
that Stanley Armour Dunham was from South Africa.
If you were paying attention, you may have noticed the short shrift the courts give to birther legal actions. It's not as if Barry has had to mount any significant legal defense. Indeed, whenever interest in the matter seems to flag, he cracks a joke about it. Gotta keep those bithers wee-wee'd up, don't you know, lest the sheeple forget those rascally Republicans are kooks!
Arabs can look very dark.
Arab |
Luo |
Arab |
Your post is patently absurd.
So, what "race" are "British East Africa Protectorate"~ians?
Do you expect the hillbilly clerks in Hawaii in 1960 could figure that stuff out? They barely spoke English and the local creole ~
The tight standards (Bwahahahahaha ~ non-hispanic white, e.g.) didn't come along until 1980 and after.
“Africa is much shorter and better understood than British East Africa Protectorate”
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Sorry, but I do not get your point.
What does it have to do with race.
We are talking about his race, which would be either “mixed”,
mulatto, or negro.
His race was listed as African, not Africa.
It's known today as Mombasa.
If you'd read this thread in its entirity you would have understood that at the time Obama was born it was a British Protectorate and not part of Kenya ~ although it served as the capital for Kenya simultaneously.
So, what race are the people from "so and so East African British Protectorate"?
You don't know. You're a clerk in a hospital. So, you write down "Africa" ~ and there you have it.
I know a Japanese-American who applied for a marriage license in Suffolk Virginia. The black clerk (a first for that area) was new and inexperienced. When it came to the part where you put in "race" he wrote in "Japanese".
She looked at her list and informed him "They ain't no Japanese race".
After some more discussion she finally decided "Korean" was OK, so he became "Korean" there having been only "black", "white" and "Korean" among the choices in Suffolk Virginia.
And you tell me hillbilly backcountry type folks who turn into clerks in Pineapple country (aka Hawaii) back in 1960 are slicker than their counterparts in Suffolk VA in the early 1980s?
You need to travel more.
My credentials are that over several decades I designed well over 1000 different Postal forms ~ many of the most used forms in America are right there at your local post office ~ and my designs have stood the test of time.
My primary "viewpoints" when designing a "new" or "revised" form were: (1) It's like the guy filling out the form is unconscious, or at least has his attention diverted, (2) He's probably not interested in doing this right, (3) He could fall down if he has to stand here with this form very long.
Remember those government forms you filled out where there wasn't enough room for the ZIP Code? I fixed them. You rarely see that these days. Still, I am sure we continue to have foreigners using the space for the ZIP Code to write in "AFRICA".
“You need to travel more.
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Er, that is ALL I have done for the last 12 years.
I have not even been home in the states since 2004.
Again. Race and nationality are separate issues, regardless of what some dumb clerk thinks.
Photo of Obama wearing eyeglasses. This was taken as he was leaving the movies with his daughters in Hawaii in Dec, 2009.
http://votingfemale.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/obama-glasses-gray-hair-wrinkled-12-31-09.jpg
Good find. Thanks.
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Oh yeah? Well take a look at this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENHP89mLWOY
The white hating muzzie looks more like he could be Obongo’s father than anybody else.
And hey, if you believe that bull about him not sleeping with a white woman, I got this bridge....
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Then there are the addresses ~ handwritten, typed, printed or schmudgied on. Oh, yes, I can believe anything.
And you want what? That I think a mere clerk can understand what "race" someone is?
Bwahahahahahaha!
From the United States 1961 vital stats:
This is part of the code page: Notice no value for African exists ..
PROCESSING VARIABLES:
Page 231 contains the requirements for Race and color.
Births in the United States in 1961 are classified for vital statistics into white, Negro, American Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Aleut, Eskimo, Hawaiian and Part-Hawaiian (combined), and other nonwhite.
There was NO classification for African (or African-American)
http://www.nber.org/vital-statistics/historical/nat61_1.CV.pdf
The information from these forms is assembled elsewhere and specialists trained in incomprehensible and arcane linguistic tricks churn them back out as a report.
That part of the US Code applies to what? To federal government reports? To state government reports? To personal reports?
There was not then, nor was there for two full decades a national standard for reporting "race" and it's a long term Conservative agenda item to ABOLISH reporting "race" in this country.
The dude was from Africa. This world has 14 primary haplogroups. In the future that might be more important than anything anyone has yet imagined.
OK, sure, fine, of course—
So, has anyone ever seen one single 1961 US birth certificate that listed a persons race as “African”?
Nooooooooo.
The natal vital stats codes were set in place by the US government. They were used at the state level. They are to this day.
Parents can self-identify from the approved codes in use. It was more strict in 1961 than now, changes have been made in the recent past to include African-American.
The suggestion that a 18 year old girl would command a professional nurse to use a race that had no corresponding code back in 1961 is a little naive. The form would have listed him as negro or other non-white.
Now, go scream racistt!!!!!
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