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CNN Investigation: Obama 'Birther' Claims Have No Merit [CNN Claims Case Closed]
Gary Tuchman ^ | April 25, 2011

Posted on 04/25/2011 8:55:15 PM PDT by Steelfish

CNN Investigation: Obama 'Birther' Claims Have No Merit See show times »

From Gary Tuchman, CNN April 25, 2011

A former Hawaii health officials tells CNN she has "no doubt" Obama was born in Honolulu Obama in 2008 produced a "certificate of live birth," which is legally accepted Various Obama family acquaintances remember the president's birth in 1961 Some critics of the president continue to express doubts about his country of birth

(CNN) -- Was Barack Obama really born in America? A new CNN investigation reveals what most analysts have been saying since the so-called "birther" controversy erupted during the 2008 presidential campaign: Obama was born in the state of Hawaii on August 4, 1961. Period.

Obama passes CNN birther investigation

While the president has made light of the controversy, the question remains political red meat for some of his critics. A recent CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll showed that nearly 75% of Americans believe Obama was definitely or probably born in the United States. More than four in 10 Republicans, however, believe he probably or definitely was not born in America.

The U.S. Constitution says only "natural born" citizens can become president -- a vague clause that some members of the birther movement contend disqualifies Obama because, they insist, he was born outside the United States. Skeptics contend, among other things, that Obama was born in his father's home country of Kenya. Potential GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump recently seized on the issue, saying he had doubts about Obama's background.

Dr. Chiyome Fukino, a former director of the Hawaii Department of Health and a Republican, told CNN in her most extensive comments to date that she has "no doubt" Obama was born in the state.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; naturalborncitizen
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To: Steelfish

Obama spent two million to keep his records sealed wouldn’t
Dr. Chiyome Fukino be chareged with something?.
No word from CNN.


121 posted on 04/26/2011 4:35:36 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Steelfish

So why won’t Obama release the long-form and end the controversy?


122 posted on 04/26/2011 4:57:26 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: TigersEye
We need to hammer that statute home, everywhere. It opens up the Pandora's box completely, by admitting that people who weren't actually born in Hawaii could obtain the same exact document Obama has. Which is of course why the MSM refuses to cover it, according to their supposed “reporting”, no such loophole exists. And from what I can tell, based on that active link I provided above, it not only existed then, it's still in effect today!
123 posted on 04/26/2011 6:19:57 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American)
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To: Steelfish
LINK
124 posted on 04/26/2011 6:22:09 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (If Obama announced his resignation that would probably bring gas to $2.30 within an hour.)
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To: TigerClaws
Just changed my tagline...

Hawaiian Statute 338-17.8: Granting US citizenship to people not even born there!

125 posted on 04/26/2011 6:25:07 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Hawaiian Statute 338-17.8: Granting US citizenship to people not even born there!)
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To: Steelfish

“The science is settled.”


126 posted on 04/26/2011 6:26:11 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Philsworld

They’re (CNN) are also disputing how much Obama has paid out to keep school records, job records, etc. out of the public domain.


127 posted on 04/26/2011 6:27:12 AM PDT by TennesseeGirl
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To: Steelfish
Obama didn't attend US schools until 1971 (10 years of age). He may or may not have been adopted by Soetoro in 1967. IF he was adopted by a foreigner, would that have ended his US citizenship? Perhaps, a Delayed Birth Registration due to a Legal Change of Status is what would be found showing a name change of Barry from Obama to Soetoro for a passport to Jakarta when he was 6 yo. This would also explain why he may or may not have received scholarships as a foreigner.

Section B 5B states, "The existing certificate and the evidence upon which the new certificate was based shall be sealed and placed in a special file. Such file shall not be subject to inspection except upon order of a court of competent jurisdiction or by the director of health."

128 posted on 04/26/2011 7:01:17 AM PDT by TennesseeGirl
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To: Steelfish

Well I guess that settles it. CNN has resolved the conflict. Lets just move on nothing more to be concerned about.


129 posted on 04/26/2011 7:15:44 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: STARWISE

According to a poll just released today, President Obama’s approval rating is at an all-time low. He’s so unpopular right now, the people in Kenya are accusing him of being born in the United States .” — Jay Leno


130 posted on 04/26/2011 7:31:28 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: Steelfish; All

The Full Story: CNN Caught Lying About Hawaii Law And The Release Of Obama’s Purported Records; Hawaii Law On The Side Of Birthers

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/full-story-cnn-caught-lying-about.html


131 posted on 04/26/2011 7:48:36 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Steelfish

“CNN Claims Case is Closed”

You know what’s nice about this statement, at this stage of the game? All it rates is a knowing smile and a wry “Good luck with that!” Then we return to prying Barry’s bony fingers off the White House door jamb as BS tries with all his might to remain where he is not eligible to stay.


132 posted on 04/26/2011 7:50:17 AM PDT by PsiChi (Karl would give us four more years of Obama to get Jeb in 2016!)
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To: Steelfish

“In order to see what happens when someone born in Hawaii requests a birth certificate, CNN asked a current resident of the state — Stig Waidelich — if he could get a copy of the document.

Waidelich was born just hours after Obama in August 1961. Like Obama, Waidelich’s birth was announced at the time in the Honolulu Star Bulletin newspaper.

Waidelich, like Obama in 2008, was given a certification of live birth in response to his request.”


What is Stig Waidelich’s certificate number?


133 posted on 04/26/2011 8:01:43 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Red Steel

Right. I can’t see the video and have to be at work all day today, and timing is really critical right now. Can you or somebody else tell me how they handled the part where they had Stig Waidelich order his BC, supposedly to prove that all you get is a COLB? They showed his COLB? Did they talk about the date filed and BC#? This was the only real bit of “investigating” they did, and the BC# was WAY out of sequence with either the Factcheck forgery or the Nordyke twins’. I know that Fukino’s interview with Isikoff was geared towards dealing with the BC# issue, because she said Obama’s BC was “properly numbered”. So this is on their minds.

It would be not even a blink for the CNN traitors to scheme with the HDOH as to how they could get a COLB out there with the number totally out of whack so they could claim the BC#’s were given randomly rather than sequentially.

But I can’t see how they framed that whole thing. Did they bring out the date filed and BC#? Did they make sure that could be clearly seen? How did they handle it?


134 posted on 04/26/2011 9:20:03 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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BFLV


135 posted on 04/26/2011 9:48:42 AM PDT by zeugma (The only thing in the social security trust fund is your children and grandchildren's sweat.)
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To: jcsjcm

The picture of the document being held in someone’s hands would make the seal really hard to see, let alone photograph. You can’t assume from this picture that the seal isn’t there. They are hard to see really.


136 posted on 04/26/2011 10:49:12 AM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Danae

My question to you was: Did you receive a Certification or a Certificate? I showed both a Certification and a Certificate. The Certificate gave much more information such as the parents place of birth. The Certification does not show this information.

If I remember correctly yours did not have parents place of birth. Also, if I remember correctly? You were adopted? That was the question I wanted to ask. I’m not sure if I have my facts correct or not. Hopefully you understand where I am going with this!

A) A certification is issued to those that the parents are questionable or unknown or hidden? In other words sealed?

B) A certificate actually shows the parents of birth

Am I incorrect in this scenario?


137 posted on 04/26/2011 10:54:48 AM PDT by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: jcsjcm

I have both. They are referred to as the long and short forms.

The Long form has the State of Parents birth on it, and if they were born outside the USA, then the Country is supposed to go there.

The COLB (Short form) does not put parent’s place of birth on it. It does however list race.

on A) there is a mechanism which does take this into account, certainly in the cases of adoption, that is a possibility that has to be taken into account. Someone with sealed records, can still get a COLB, the sealing of those records does not affect the ability of the person whose record it is from getting copies (certified or not) of their own records.

B) Both certificates show parents of Birth.


138 posted on 04/26/2011 12:12:28 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Steelfish

The guy is destroying our country, brick by brick, day by day and no one in Washington is pressing Obama and his social democrats in Congress about it. Instead, they let him and his cadre of Marxist czars get away with running the country into the ground through his regulations.

Put the damn bc aside for a while and focus on what we can prove about this sob to the voters. We’ve got plenty of proof on what this sob is doing to us and no one in their right mind will be able to call us a bunch of kooks once we demand our elected representatives take these issues to the people on a daily basis 24/7.


139 posted on 04/26/2011 12:46:11 PM PDT by Enough is ENOUGH (Learn what is really going on. Read The Creature from Jekyll Island, End the Fed & Money Mischief)
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To: butterdezillion
Can you or somebody else tell me how they handled the part where they had Stig Waidelich order his BC, supposedly to prove that all you get is a COLB? They showed his COLB?


Here's a still picture of the COLB from the CNN "investigation." It should be possible to enhance document number to make it out, or someone could captured the high def picture from another source. CNN appears to be hiding this segment from their website.



CNN 25th April  Obama BC investigation


Did they talk about the date filed and BC#? This was the only real bit of “investigating” they did, and the BC# was WAY out of sequence with either the Factcheck forgery or the Nordyke twins’


The reporter said, "It was file August 8th, 1961" while showing the short form COLB, and said Stig was born 13 hour later on August 5th, 1961.

And he read the "Prima Facie evidence statement.

140 posted on 04/26/2011 12:57:16 PM PDT by Red Steel
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