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Pastor Terry Jones imprisoned to prevent Detroit Koran protest
The Telegraph ^ | 4/23/2011

Posted on 04/23/2011 8:10:58 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

The US pastor whose burning of a Koran sparked deadly violence in Afghanistan was briefly jailed in a heavily Islamic suburb on Friday after a court banned his protest outside a mosque.

A local judge jailed Pastor Terry Jones of Gainesville, Florida and his associate Wayne Sapp after a court found their planned protest outside the Islamic Center of America in Dearborn, Michigan, could lead to violence.

During his court appearance, Pastor Jones argued that the Koran "promotes terrorist activities around the world."

He also insisted that his right to protest against Islam was protected by the First Amendment to the US Constitution.

"The First Amendment does us no good if it confines us to saying what is popular," he pointed out.

But Dearborn Police Chief Ronald Haddad testified that his department had received information about serious threats made against Pastor Jones from local residents, and argued that his protest could lead to violence if allowed.

Prosecutor Robert Moran argued that the protest had nothing to do with the First Amendment and at stake were security and peace in the community.

The jury sided with the prosecution and Judge Mark Somers set bond at the symbolic amount of $1 each for the two pastors, which they initially refused to pay.

Following their refusal, both were escorted to a local jail. But local media reported both men changed their minds after spending about an hour behind bars and posted the $1 bond.

Under the judge's ruling, both Pastor Jones and Mr Sapp are now prohibited by the court from going to the mosque for three years.

But Pastor Jones was quoted by The Detroit Free Press as saying the two "will come back next week" to try to organise a new protest.

Pastor Jones and Mr Sapp

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dontoffendterrorists; islamwins; sharialaw; terryjones; tyrannyinamerica; werallmoslemsnow
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To: bruinbirdman

This is one of the most outrageous incursions on the unalienable rights of Americans yet.


21 posted on 04/23/2011 8:27:45 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (You say your'e conservative, but you support liberals. Should I believe your words or your actions?)
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To: LyinLibs

What is Oqaeda? Al Queda? A play on Obama?


22 posted on 04/23/2011 8:28:02 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: quantim
It’s provocative and unnecessary serving no purpose.

It's "free speech".

Get with the program.

23 posted on 04/23/2011 8:28:28 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: Thumper1960

A couple days ago, some (dirty) moslems in Afghanistan were beaten/jailed for recycling old korans into pulp, then into toilet paper.

I said, “Hell, I skip that middle step.”

I just rip, and wipe.


24 posted on 04/23/2011 8:28:52 PM PDT by LyinLibs
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To: bruinbirdman

In the light of the case of the American Nazi Party being allowed to demonstrate in the highly Jewish city of Skokie, IL, I can’t imagine that this case will survive appeal. Skokie’s reasoning was identical to this case, and the USSC threw it out.


25 posted on 04/23/2011 8:29:09 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Liberty and Union, Now and Forever, One and Inseparable -- Daniel Webster)
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To: bruinbirdman

From Arab Detroit News: Ron Haddad sworn in as police chief:

http://www.arabdetroit.com/news.php?id=335

Haddad arrests 3 Christians during Muslim Outreach:

http://thepersecutiontimes.com/an-open-message-to-dearborn-police-chief-ronald-haddad/2010/07/06/


26 posted on 04/23/2011 8:30:10 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: tbw2

“What is Oqaeda? Al Queda? A play on Obama?”

Oqaeda is 0bama.

Also known as Ohole, Oherpes, Osphincter.

Who needs Al Qaeda when we’ve got Omoslem?


27 posted on 04/23/2011 8:30:10 PM PDT by LyinLibs
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To: quantim
It’s provocative and unnecessary serving no purpose.

Well who made you the all-seeing arbiter of what serves a purpose and what doesn't?

28 posted on 04/23/2011 8:31:07 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: stockpirate

Actually, he doesn’t have a right to protest anywhere he pleases, but he does have the right to assembly.


29 posted on 04/23/2011 8:31:11 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: LyinLibs
We had “Draw Mohammed” Day.

Did we have “Burn the koran” Day?

If not, it’s time to.


I think a wipe your backside with the Koran day would be better, personally.
30 posted on 04/23/2011 8:32:00 PM PDT by Sparticus (Tar and feathers for the first dumbass Republican that uses the word bipartisanship.)
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To: stockpirate

Not if it endangers the public, get a grip.

This assclown lost this round, rightfully.

And he’ll be back next week on the Dearborn city hall steps it is said and there he can have his *free speech.*

This guy is a deranged FREAK trying to stir up crap in a place it is not needed, like a neighborhood where a *protest* could not be serviced by emergency vehicles and so forth.

This is why this nutcase was denied a permit.

If you want to align yourself with a Westboro equivalent, knock yourself out.


31 posted on 04/23/2011 8:33:14 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: quantim
He’s no less a scumbag than the Westboro scums. It’s provocative and unnecessary serving no purpose.

Hey, those guys are associates. Maybe he can get them to join him in a protest...Now that would serve a purpose.

32 posted on 04/23/2011 8:33:57 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month...April.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
a court found their planned protest outside the Islamic Center of America in Dearborn, Michigan, could lead to violence

This all leads back to the Birth Certificate, people.

I'm not one who implies Obama was born outside the US. But I do imply that he's been refusing to release his records to nullify the US Constitution. He did the same with how Obama-Care was shoved down our throats, he did the same when he made a formal complaint against the State Of Arizona to the United Nations and he ignored Congress and consulted the United Nations when taking us to war with Libya. It's a slippery slope.

Now we should be very careful what we post on the internet. If they feel that our freedom of speech could lead to violence (not in our own city) but in some village on the other side of the world we could be hearing a knock on our doors by the Feds.

I suppose in Obama's next term it will be guns that will be banned next.

To be selective on what's important and what's not so important in the US Constitution is a very dangerous choice and slippery slope.

33 posted on 04/23/2011 8:34:22 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

That was then. This is now. Times have changed. Black is white. Up is down. If it was against Christians or the funeral of a member of the Armed Forces, he would have been allowed to hold his protest. But it wasn’t, so he is in the pokey. And if you review the koran burning threads, you will find that more that a few on this forum are rejoicing at where he is.


34 posted on 04/23/2011 8:34:46 PM PDT by sport
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To: quantim

Almost every word you said about Jones is true, and every objectionable thing he has said and done are his Constitutional right. The jailing of a citizen for exercising his constitutional rights is anathema in a Free Republic.


35 posted on 04/23/2011 8:34:46 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Liberty and Union, Now and Forever, One and Inseparable -- Daniel Webster)
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To: LyinLibs

Found Korans for $13.00 apiece on Amazon. Have been thinking of getting few and doing some creative destruction with videos.

“Have you killed a Koran Day?”


36 posted on 04/23/2011 8:35:04 PM PDT by biff
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To: bruinbirdman

This is a serious felony.

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 13 > § 242
§ 242. Deprivation of rights under color of law

Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such person being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.


37 posted on 04/23/2011 8:36:29 PM PDT by djf (Dems and liberals: Let's redefine "marriage". We already redefined "natural born citizen".)
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To: quantim

Let’s see, how does that quote go, “First they came for....”


38 posted on 04/23/2011 8:36:38 PM PDT by FourPeas
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To: gitmo

It is still imprisonment.


39 posted on 04/23/2011 8:39:05 PM PDT by sport
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To: quantim

‘If you want to align yourself with a Westboro equivalent, knock yourself out.’

You are associating yourself with Bull Connor and every racist city which jailed civil rights demonstrators, not in your motivation, but in your methods.


40 posted on 04/23/2011 8:39:05 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Liberty and Union, Now and Forever, One and Inseparable -- Daniel Webster)
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