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Pastor Terry Jones imprisoned to prevent Detroit Koran protest
The Telegraph ^ | 4/23/2011

Posted on 04/23/2011 8:10:58 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

The US pastor whose burning of a Koran sparked deadly violence in Afghanistan was briefly jailed in a heavily Islamic suburb on Friday after a court banned his protest outside a mosque.

A local judge jailed Pastor Terry Jones of Gainesville, Florida and his associate Wayne Sapp after a court found their planned protest outside the Islamic Center of America in Dearborn, Michigan, could lead to violence.

During his court appearance, Pastor Jones argued that the Koran "promotes terrorist activities around the world."

He also insisted that his right to protest against Islam was protected by the First Amendment to the US Constitution.

"The First Amendment does us no good if it confines us to saying what is popular," he pointed out.

But Dearborn Police Chief Ronald Haddad testified that his department had received information about serious threats made against Pastor Jones from local residents, and argued that his protest could lead to violence if allowed.

Prosecutor Robert Moran argued that the protest had nothing to do with the First Amendment and at stake were security and peace in the community.

The jury sided with the prosecution and Judge Mark Somers set bond at the symbolic amount of $1 each for the two pastors, which they initially refused to pay.

Following their refusal, both were escorted to a local jail. But local media reported both men changed their minds after spending about an hour behind bars and posted the $1 bond.

Under the judge's ruling, both Pastor Jones and Mr Sapp are now prohibited by the court from going to the mosque for three years.

But Pastor Jones was quoted by The Detroit Free Press as saying the two "will come back next week" to try to organise a new protest.

Pastor Jones and Mr Sapp

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dontoffendterrorists; islamwins; sharialaw; terryjones; tyrannyinamerica; werallmoslemsnow
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To: quantim

So in a nutshell what you are saying is the Muslims have taken over your neighborhood and you are scared to death of them.

It must be an awful way to live one’s life.


101 posted on 04/23/2011 9:29:46 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

I appreciate the clever sarcasm, but that nitwit comment sides you with Obama bombing Libya.

And Assad, lots of dead bodies the last couple of days.

Thankfully, civil, public peace was found in Dearborn this Easter weekend, and for now this drama has a happy ending.


102 posted on 04/23/2011 9:32:38 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: quantim

It’s about you submitting to islam, already.

The wants and needs of the muslims do not supersede the US Constitution. Just as I cannot put a round between the eyes of Bill Ayers for burning and trampling Old Glory, neither can the muslims do violence to Jones for burning their precious rag.

Their “sensibilities” be damned. We do not live under shari’a law and we are not bound by the dictates of imams and semi literate mullahs regarding what levels of esteem any given faith or belief structure are to be given.

Should feral muslims decide to act like rabid animals, they should be treated as such and taken care of when they froth at the mouth and go berserk when disturbed.

When the first Church of Christ is built in Mecca or Riyahd, I’ll give a damn what feelings of muslims are hurt in any given situation.


103 posted on 04/23/2011 9:32:59 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
That was my very first thought also. Kudos.
104 posted on 04/23/2011 9:34:56 PM PDT by fish hawk (Obama = "low-level socialist organizer". Allen West)
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To: wku man

My apologies.....AR is correct.

smartarse comment notsithstanding.

Be glad I am not a muslim and felt insulted by your comment. If I were, you’d be getting a late night knock on your door from the 0bamaoist Gestapo and certain posters on this thread hauling your rear-end away for inciting violence.


105 posted on 04/23/2011 9:36:06 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: bruinbirdman

Prima facie evidence that Islam is a cult of violence that the authorities are afraid of.

If there was a protest by Muslims in front of a Catholic Church, would the DA and police chief give a fig?


106 posted on 04/23/2011 9:38:30 PM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: bruinbirdman
We have a constitutional right to speak our mind openly. The concept is so important to a free people it's enshrined as the First Amendment. Not the second or the third or the last. Unless... what you say offends someone. Then you can be thrown into jail simply for thinking you might say it. Yessiree, the Founding Fathers were damned geniuses!!! /s
107 posted on 04/23/2011 9:38:54 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: ViLaLuz
And you calling him nasty names and curse words is not provocative?

Fair point, but he was 'cussed' not 'cursed.' I never used words used by Jeremiah Wright.
108 posted on 04/23/2011 9:39:21 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: exit82

If Jones had burned the muslim rag and violence erupted, it’d have been his fault for provoking them.

If the muslims were attacked for attacking Jones, their “civil rights” would have been violated and hate crimes charges would have been filed.

Isn’t that easy to comprehend?


109 posted on 04/23/2011 9:41:33 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: bruinbirdman

So, what this tells me is that the next time this so called church protests at a soldiers funeral they should be beaten down by an overwelming mob of ax handle wielding US citizens.


111 posted on 04/23/2011 9:44:11 PM PDT by right way right
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To: quantim

Why? Are you going to sic your little terrorist friends on him?

I think you belong somewhere else. I’m sure you’d fit in nicely at DU.


112 posted on 04/23/2011 9:45:44 PM PDT by Politicalmom ("We are an 'entitlement' society and we need to move towards being an 'empowerment' society"-H. Cain)
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To: right way right
So, what this tells me is that the next time this so called church protests at a soldiers funeral they should be beaten down by an overwelming mob of ax handle wielding US citizens.

The Westboro Baptist people are totally offensive. So is burning the holy book of any religion, as Terry Jones does. The insult here is that the courts for whatever reason have so far allowed the Westboro shenanigans to continue, but two wrongs don't make a right.

113 posted on 04/23/2011 9:50:20 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: bruinbirdman

Merely another incremental step toward Islamization of the USA. When Islam rules, free speech is suppressed. From where I sit, Islam is already ruling America.

Imagine a jury that would deny free speech. They did in Dearborn, for Reverend Jones. What kind of jury would do that? A jury not familiar with the Constitutional right of free speech? Or was it a jury composed of blacks and muslims, or a combination of both?

Imagine Reverend Al Sharpton, or Reverend Jesse Jackson, being denied free speech. Imagine a prosecutor taking them to court in order to deny them free speech. Imagine a jury ruling with the prosecutor, placing them in jail, simply to deny them their right of free speech.

There are two major problems for Reverend Jones. 1. He is white. 2. He waded into the territory of (Dearborn), where Islam rules.

Free speech denied. Lily white, and an infidel to boot! Pack your bags Reverend Jones, exit the war zone. Regroup. Stage right! Live to fight another day.


114 posted on 04/23/2011 9:54:09 PM PDT by takenoprisoner (Repeal the 16th amendment . Send Islam packing to their homeland.)
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To: Thumper1960
Yeah, my apologies. I'm a born smartass, so I couldn't help myself.

As far as a late night knock on the door by the Obammunist-Moose Limb Gestapo goes, all I can say is thank God I live in Boise. We don't look too kindly on that kind of nonsense. In order to get to my door, they'd have to fight their way through my neighbors, and if they want to get to my neighbor's door, they'd have to get past me.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

115 posted on 04/23/2011 9:55:32 PM PDT by wku man (Who says conservatives don't rock? www.myspace.com/10poundtest)
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To: wku man

LOL

No worries.


116 posted on 04/23/2011 9:56:48 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: bruinbirdman
Pastor Reverend Terry Jones imprisoned to prevent Detroit Koran protest.

There, I fixed it.

117 posted on 04/23/2011 9:57:20 PM PDT by takenoprisoner (Repeal the 16th amendment . Send Islam packing to their homeland.)
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To: Lorianne
Pastor Jones argued that the Koran "promotes terrorist activities around the world."

So which part of that message do you disagree with? I think the guy's over the top too, but after 9-11, how many of the so called moderate muslims came to our defense?

118 posted on 04/23/2011 9:59:03 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: bwc2221

Oh, so you are native and know the area?

Nice. Next time say so as not to make yourself a fool. I don’t know you from the FR state board, and your home page does not reflect you even have a state, no problem. At least there is a baseline from your comment.

Yes, it was not nice when the Dearborn cops last year muzzled those three kiddos pushing paper street pamphlets during a muzzie activity.

What we have here is not a typical FR nonsense Constitutional argument, but where local government steps in as not to get innocents killed that don’t deserve to die that day.

It’s not complicated.

And for those that prefer state’s right’s, a representative republic vs. a demcracy at large ought to think about it.


119 posted on 04/23/2011 9:59:03 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: Amelia
two wrongs don't make a right.

This is a double standard. Free speech is only permitted against Christians, Whites, and heterosexuals.

120 posted on 04/23/2011 10:00:10 PM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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