Posted on 04/18/2011 6:15:48 PM PDT by RBW in PA
Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer vetoed a bill Monday that would have required presidential candidates to provide their birth certificates to appear on the ballot, and another that would have allowed guns to be carried on school grounds.
(Excerpt) Read more at tucsonsentinel.com ...
Brewer did not explain it that way:
"As a former Secretary of State (sic), I do not support designating one person as the gatekeeper to the ballot for a candidate, which could lead to artibrary or politically-motivated decisions," Brewer wrote in her veto message to House Speaker Kirk Adams.
"In addition, I never imagined being presented with a bill that could require candidates for President (sic) of the greatest and most powerful nation on earth to submit their "early baptismal or circumcision certificates" among other records to the Arizona Secretary of State. This is a bridge too far," Brewer wrote."
Brewer does not want any standards or if there are any standards under AZ law, she does not want a higher standard to vet presidential candidates. A bridge too far Jan??
Her reason makes no sense. This bill gives anybody the right to challenge in court whatever the SOS decides. That means that the decision will ultimately end up in the court’s hands, where it belongs.
Her reason makes no sense whatsoever. And I know that if she spoke to Seel at all, she knows that.
Something is definitely screwy here.
Are you not aware of the Soros Secretary of State program that got elected several key SOS’s in multiple States such as Minnesota where the Soros chosen SOS pulled off the fraud that got the Al Franken win!?
It’s happening all over the country. Soros is backing the Secretary of State project, and that is the probable reason as to why Brewer is afraid of giving all that unchecked authority to the SOS.
“So what you’re telling us Brewer that an obvious foreigner can get on the state presidential ballot? If not, then the SoS is a gate keeper.”
We almost never agree, but you nailed this one. There was no excuse whatsoever for not signing the bill. What is next, allowing teens to run because we don’t want a gatekeeper? WTF,O?!
I was going to ask if they can override the veto. You say they can?
unreal
So we should not have a SoS doing his or her job because Soros might get a lefty SoS elected, and that left SoS would then do the wrong thing?
What exactly is this Soros plan that you are so afraid of?
Another back room deal... another high-priced escort.
Yes she is!
Those records were some of the records that could be used if the long-form was not available.
They were using the same standards are used for other instances where proof of place of birth has to be determined by something besides a birth certificate. The Passport Office talks about “early records” - usually records before the age of five, but they have to be accompanied by an affidavit of an adult familiar with the circumstances of the birth to be used for a passport.
Brewer is acting like this is unheard of. Hasn’t she ever dealt with the Passport Office?
This whole thing doesn’t add up.
That’s what was reported earlier.
Like to add that there’s a technicality in all this “birther” business that may trip up Romney as a candidate. She may be a Mitbot so she would not let a law get enacted that would hurt Mit.
Using your logic we should elimate all SoS's and all elected positions because George Soros might get some lefty SoS's, Governors, Representatives, Senators and Presidents elected.
No thanks.
Correct!! Awful from Jan Brewer. Hope her veto gets overturned
I trust Brewer’s judgement. There is something specific that caused her to veto these bills and it’s not possible, without having the bill(s) in front of us, to know the precise language or what exactly was in them.
This is a woman who was absolutely brutalized but stood firm. I highly doubt that she is doing anything but what is in the best interest of her state.
The critical part is that the bill allows eligibility to be challenged in court, which means that any relevant records could be subpoenaed. What is specifically asked for is irrelevant. The only thing that matters is that the people have a right to challenge eligibility. Because of the severability clause, that provision would remain in place even if the required documentation was found to be unconstitutional.
Which is why Brewer’s comments make absolutely no sense. What she gave is actually a reason to SIGN the bill, because it gives the people the ability to hold a Secretary of State accountable THROUGH a court - which is the proper avenue for deciding controversies of fact and law.
Yeah if the votes stay the same as before they can override.
The House vote was 40 to 16 I think, and the Senate vote was 20 - 9 with 1 abstention.
Brewer on Greta 5 minutes ago: "...Baptismal or circumcision records...so I went on record and vetoed it."
This is a dishonest statement by her that omits that presidential candidates have other ways to they can get on the election ballot.
And
Brewer: "This vote was a distraction."
Only if you don't want the SoS to do the job, then it is a "distraction."
Oh, how I would LOVE to know for sure that she was threatened by Obama minions for this threat.
That simple fact, if true, if well known, could ALONE start a hot, shooting civil war.
Oh, how I would LOVE to know for sure that she was threatened by Obama minions to veto the birth certificate bill.
That simple fact, if true, if well known, could ALONE start a hot, shooting civil war.
Typical Republican... Gotta establish that liberal street cred.
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