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Trump Warns Cantor Not To Give Up Birther Fight: 'People Love This Issue'
TPM ^ | April 16, 2011 | Evan McMorris-Santoro

Posted on 04/16/2011 3:49:09 PM PDT by UniqueViews

"I don't think he is really serious when we see a campaign launch on the birther issue," Cantor said.

On Friday, Karl Rove told Fox News Trump is a "joke candidate" because of his birther-centric media cavalcade.

"It's amazing," Trump said. "He's so against me, because I am questioning. All I want to see is the guy's birth certificate."

(Excerpt) Read more at tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: attackthemessenger; birthcertificate; cantor; certifigate; donald; donaldtrump; naturalborncitizen; obama; teaparty; trump
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To: AlexW
Yes the AVERAGE American may see that, but people with half a brain know that his policies ARE WORKING, just as he expects. THE DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA.

A lot of the Obama voters of 2008 did not vote for someone to destroy America. Someone needs to wake those people up before the 2012 to exactly what is happening. Putting O on the defensive is not a bad idea.

81 posted on 04/16/2011 5:06:01 PM PDT by Abby4116
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
Again, Trump has stated over and over the same thing which he will not be a spoiler and let Obama win.

He stated on Hannity on Friday night again.

Rush left off the last portion of Trump's response so he could have Trump repeat that he will not be a spoiler !

Its a basic method for a interviewer to get a response.

Whether Trump lives by his comment will be answered shortly.

The real question is WHY do you want to stop Trump from his non stop HELPFUL attacks on this fraud Barry and his past ????

I want Trump to keep up the non stop attacks since Barry spinsters are freaking and on the RUN ! I want these questions in the News CYCLE DAY after DAY !!!! Whats your agenda ?

82 posted on 04/16/2011 5:07:22 PM PDT by ncalburt (Get Even on Election Day)
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To: savedbygrace; Red Steel

A few possibilities here of why Trump is only mentioning the birth cert. issue.

1. Trump isn’t educated about the qualifications of what is a NBC and due to lack of knowledge is just focusing on that.

2. He knows there’s much more to it than a mere BC but that message is easier to sound bite than going on and on about many details concerning parentage, birth place, adoptions, use of other nationalities, legal references, Vattel, etc.

3. His operatives have found enough info to know full well that there is either no actual BC or that it has enough info on it show foreign birth or other very damning evidence.

I don’t know much of anything about Trump but I have a feeling he’s not stupid and has carefully thought and planned out everything he’s doing and saying, and is doing and saying these things for his own reasons, and I also have a suspicion that he likes to win, not lose, whatever he does.

What do you think, Red - if you have time to read this.


83 posted on 04/16/2011 5:13:19 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Do you remember what states Perot won in that year?


84 posted on 04/16/2011 5:14:21 PM PDT by mel (I DONATE to FR monthly...Do You?????)
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To: Carley

“Frankly, I would prefer not to be represented by a reprobate like Trump.”
___________________________________

Well yes, I would love to have GOD representing the USA as POTUS, but lets get real.
Ronald Reagan is no longer available, and neither is God.

I may not care for Trump as a person, but as POTUS, he beats
any of the other clowns and RINOS in the pack.
Palin is my choice, but I seriously doubt that she can be nominated, much less win.
The Marxist media will eat her alive.


85 posted on 04/16/2011 5:16:10 PM PDT by AlexW (Proud eligibility skeptic)
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To: Carley

Ivanka Trump wed Jared Kushner for the second time in three days on Wednesday (28.10.09).

The 27-year-old heiress and the publisher - who married for the first time in a lavish ceremony at her father Donald’s Trump National Gold Club in New Jersey on Sunday (25.10.09) - held a second Jewish ceremony in New York’s historic Puck Building.

Known as Sheva Brachot, the ceremony featured a rabbi reciting seven blessings over the bride and groom.

Ivanka’s brother Eric Trump said: “It was really beautiful. They are a very beautiful couple.”

Her mother Ivana added: “It was fabulous and very elegant. A beautiful event for the young couple.”

The bride - who converted to Judaism in July - wore a champagne-coloured floor-length gown to the ceremony.

Afterwards, Jared’s parents Seryl and Charles Kushner provided a buffet of traditional kosher food as well as hamburgers, hotdogs, steak sandwiches, sushi and salad.


86 posted on 04/16/2011 5:19:15 PM PDT by dennisw (nzt - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I don’t think Trump likes to lose. If he’s really going to run, I think he really wants to win.


87 posted on 04/16/2011 5:21:00 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

“1. Trump isn’t educated about the qualifications of what is a NBC and due to lack of knowledge is just focusing on that.”

Oh, I am quite sure Trump has been educated on what NBC means.
The birth certificate is the first step, and probably points
to why BHO is not qualified.
Why else would Obama’s handlers be spending a fortune to hide it?


88 posted on 04/16/2011 5:23:43 PM PDT by AlexW (Proud eligibility skeptic)
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To: cripplecreek

Since it’s now obvious that people want to hear this - meaning someone attack 0bama’s eligibility - why do you think no one - NO ONE - else has had the guts to say this? Why only him?


89 posted on 04/16/2011 5:23:50 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: ncalburt

Oh, you are far too practical for the ideology_at_any_price people. My main goal is to evict Obama from the White House. All good things will follow from that. Trump has the best chance to rid us of The Kenyan


90 posted on 04/16/2011 5:24:12 PM PDT by dennisw (nzt - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: mel

Do you remember what states Bush would have won if Perot had not been in the race?


91 posted on 04/16/2011 5:27:46 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When and why did Steve Dunham change his name to Barack Hussein Obama? When he converted to Islam?)
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To: UniqueViews

Some people on FR don’t like anyone questioning 0h0m0’s eligibility. I recognize some of them. Jes sayin’....


92 posted on 04/16/2011 5:27:54 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: savedbygrace
The issue isn’t so much BO’s BC, but the citizenship of BO’s father, whoever he might be. Maybe the BC could help with IDing him, but if he wasn't’t a US citizen, then BO is not a Natural Born Citizen, regardless of whether he’s a US citizen or not. Two different classes of citizens.

Thanks Savedbygrace. One more person who understands. Why do you think so few seem able to grasp the truth? If dates mean anything on Free Republic, many of them are old timers. You've said it succinctly. The justice who confused things with his decision in Wong Kim Ark, which obots use to further confuse thimgs, said, “Citizens can be only natural, or naturalized.”

Since Wong Kim Ark is a decision based upon the 14th Amendment, and since Obama confused many by citing the verbiage in Title 8, which is the elaboration of the 14th Amendment by Congress - Title 8 is a set of laws. Let's look at what Obama said about himself. He said “I am a native born citizen of the U.S.” Obama, born of a non-citizen father and a citizen mother is defined in title 8 as a “citizen.” Title 8 does not mention natural born citizenship; neither does the 14th Amendment. The reason is that someone made a citizen by nature cannot have his status redefined by a law. Laws are made by man. The author of the 14th Amendment told us what a natural born citizen was, twice, recored in the Globe, the Congressional Record for 1866, Ohio Congressman/Judge John Bingham:

I find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill], which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen….

No one can argue this. This is our history. Are citizens such sheep as to ignore what is known in favor of unproved hypothesis fed them by unscrupulous publicity seekers (World Net Daily, Trump)? If a driver kills someone in a hit and run accident at a crosswalk would it make sense to talk endlessly about whether his hidden drivers license might not have been renewed, or to look at the existing video tapes from surveillance cameras at the intersection to confirm his guilt? How can there be so many on Free Republic working actively to divert attention to so obvious a truth?

Do any Free Republic bloggers not understand that Obama’s father not only “(owed) allegiance to (a) foreign sovereignty's”, but Barry was, by his own admission, born a citizen of the British Commonwealth. Obama is baldly ignoring the Constitution, and so are all senators, who in 2008, signed agreement that they would accord McCain natural born citizen status because both of his parents were citizens when he was born.

This appears an exposure of how many operatives supporting Obama are at work at Free Republic. Trump is using the “false flag” of a birth certificate for publicity, and because he can ride the wave mistrust generated by the intentional concealment of Obama's historical documents. It is false flag campaing because Obama's ineligibility comes from his father's citizenship, as you said, so the false flag diverts people's attention from the truth.

All we can do is remind people of the incontrovertable truth. The Obots have a job to do, and will not debate our justices and framers. They are probably people working for the nonproductive sector, government, or retired from it and fearful that their gravy train is being threatened. Better for them to have socialism for a while, even if it causes a collapse like the USSR experienced, than to risk their pensions. That they are miscalculating the effect of a major devaluation of the dollar, and the failure of many states economies doesn't seem to matter.

They know this is war, and that Obmaa, if he survives for another term, will eliminate speech such as this. His goons at the FCC are openly working on gaining more control over the Internet, supported lavishly by Soros. Please, when you have the time, continue to correct this diversionary tactic. There are many who only read, and who have no idea that there is a clear legal violation which Obama has himself confirmed. Obama has honestly told us that he doesn't regard the Constitution as binding doctrine. He hasn't lied. He has never claimed to be a natural born citizen. He knows better. His law professor and adviser at Harvard, Larry Tribe, submitted a brief to the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on Senate Res 511, one which Obama signed, in which Tribe and Olson, as well as Leahy and Chertoff state clearly that a natural born citizen is “born of citizen parents.”

93 posted on 04/16/2011 5:29:20 PM PDT by Spaulding
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To: ncalburt; Tex-Con-Man

Thanks for the clarification. Tex CON man always slams anyone who questions 0h0mo’s eligibility or makes it an issue, for some odd reason....


94 posted on 04/16/2011 5:31:37 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah
I think that going down this road would doom most 2012 wannabees. Trump is using it as a hook . In the end it doesn't matter who does or who won't . Trump is doing it for them . In the meantime the establishment candidates look smaller by the day . I don't think trump will win the election , but he will have some fun and many of us will enjoy the show. If he leaves the race the others can come out of hiding.
95 posted on 04/16/2011 5:31:42 PM PDT by fantom (,)
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Oops - hit post before I was finished.

I figured there was more to the story about Trump saying he’d run as an independent, and that his statements had been taken out of context.


96 posted on 04/16/2011 5:32:57 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah
Why only him?,br>
Because he's a snake oil salesman. Have no fear he'll keep telling you what you want to hear till he no longer needs you.
97 posted on 04/16/2011 5:34:23 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: AlexW

Yes, I didn’t think #1 was the reason, just put it out there to be “fair and balanced”!

heheh


98 posted on 04/16/2011 5:35:03 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: cripplecreek

Nope, doesn’t make sense.

None.


99 posted on 04/16/2011 5:36:13 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: fantom

It’s a great thing that someone has the guts to do what he’s doing. His motives and plans will be made clear in time, no doubt.


100 posted on 04/16/2011 5:38:42 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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