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1 posted on 04/13/2011 8:32:55 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I just want a car that will go 1000 miles on 2 AA batteries.


2 posted on 04/13/2011 8:34:36 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Shut up and eat your Beans!)
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To: All; steelyourfaith; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; SunkenCiv; Paul Pierett; neverdem; I got the rope; ...

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3 posted on 04/13/2011 8:35:50 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Any birds out that way going to get cooked?


5 posted on 04/13/2011 8:39:51 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Wonder how much heat the mirrors produce at the solar receiver ?.


6 posted on 04/13/2011 8:41:04 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

So 392 thermal MW may be equal to around 120 MWe. Figure 40% capacity factor given that it’s dark 50% of the time.

$168 million is just Google’s share.

Sounds like a good investment?

The other take away from the article is that after 40 years of intense research in solar, both private and public; the old Rankin cycle with mirrors, partially envisioned by ancient Greeks, is still the choice for solar.


9 posted on 04/13/2011 8:46:33 AM PDT by cicero2k
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>>The project is expected to be completed in 2013, and will be funded by clean energy technology guarantees offered by the U.S. Department of Energy and by NRG.

Notice that they bury this, the key aspect of this deal, at the very end. It seems quite likely that Google has no risk with their investment thanks to you and me, the taxpayer.


12 posted on 04/13/2011 8:52:24 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

LOL! The utter stupidity of the accidentally uber-rich continues to entertain! Last week NRO reported that such “power resources” produce 3% of the nation’s electricity needs — when the Sun is actually out!


15 posted on 04/13/2011 8:55:35 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Everyone should switch their search default to Bing.

Don't give the google commies any hits.

18 posted on 04/13/2011 8:56:52 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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The project is expected to be completed in 2013, and will be funded by clean energy technology guarantees offered by the U.S. Department of Energy and by NRG.

So the government gives Google the money to invest then touts Google's involvement. If there are any profits, Google wins, if not, Google wins.

Now you know why Google gives so much money to Democratic politicians, like the $100,000,000 it gave Al Gore alone.

That's one hundred million, to the Pope of Greenrich Village.

20 posted on 04/13/2011 9:01:30 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
You survived Enron, and PG&E , DPW and ConEd..

but will you be able to survive

without GooGle?

One nation, Under GooGle

In Godogle We Trust

When's Craigslist'a'hookers uhh escorts gonna jump in.. FacelessBook too.. ;-)

23 posted on 04/13/2011 9:12:28 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Rhetoric like the quote below makes suspect the motives of either the writer or the project sponsors (whoever originated the quote), as if dumb and false arguments to the ignorant masses are necessary to sell something that one would think should be worthy without trying to fool anyone.

They said: “This amount of solar energy produced is like taking 90,000 cars off the road over the plant’s lifetime.”

Well, actually, no it is not. Not in the least.

Will “90,000 cars” magically be dispensed with, magically NOT be sold and used simply because this solar power plant will be built? No. No number of fossil-fuel powered cars will change because of this power-plant; not now, not over its life time.

It is similar to the another idiotic excuse given on a solar power industry advocacy site, which said:

“Solar thermal electric systems operating in the US today [Solar Parabolic Troughs] meet the needs of over 350,000 people (equal to the population of the city of Fresno, CA or Miami, FL) and displace the equivalent of 2.3 million barrels of oil annually.”

Again, in reality, “solar thermal electric systems” in the U.S. will NEVER “displace the equivalent of 2.3 million barrels of oil annually”, because oil plays an insignificant role in U.S. electricity generation and building the power plant will NOT magically transform any number of autos to electric-powered autos either.

Additionally, almost every solar power plant on the boards represents additional electric generation capacity and not one (yet) will be built to displace any existing coal, natural gas or nuclear powered plant, nor have projected plans for fossil fueled or nuclear plant additions changed much during the period that solar and other plants have been added. Solar essentially, so far, makes a net addition to power and electric generation but does not (yet) DISPLACE existing or planned generation in other modes - in spite of all the hype.

IF solar is actually “better” it should be able to argue on 100% economic terms, and promote itself on “dollars saved” and “reduced cost of electricity to the consumer”. Those are arguments you never hear from the solar powered electricity generation industry. Why? Because such arguments would be false?


27 posted on 04/13/2011 9:50:11 AM PDT by Wuli
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"We need smart capital to transform our energy sector and build a clean energy future,"

Uh... Yea...Al Gore is a friggin genius. Give your smart money to him and his kind....

Here is the deal with google. This is risk management. They need to imbed themselves as fast as they can in as many places as they can. In as many industry as they can. Especially industry such as this which is nothing more than a con job but one with the backing of the fake president's handlers. Why? Why must google do this? Easy answer. They have made their money by taking content without compensation. No matter how cool google is or how valuable it is it is still built on theft. They walk on your lawn without permission and take what they want. Someday someone is going to kick them in the crotch over this. There only way to keep this from happening and to keep the government as a shield is to do dumb crap like this solar garbage that stupid political types push so they can shake down someone like google. Like birds of a feather thieves stick together...

29 posted on 04/13/2011 10:03:04 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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“We need smart capital to transform our energy sector”

Translation: “We need the taxpayers to invest in our projects with us, or give taxpayer owned assets (like land) for the projects we (Google) put our capital into [so we - Google - get off with spending less of our own capital - that’s “smart”].

No different than what Google did in choosing a city to try to construct its own version of a new high speed Internet. It angered a lot of locations that had vied for the business when Google chose Kansas City, Kansas. What advantage did Kansas City have? The local power utility is city owned and is partnering with Google and sharing its rights of way - for free.

Google surely does represent “new” capitalists - crony capitalists that can’t go out in the world and actually do something entirely on their own.


30 posted on 04/13/2011 10:05:17 AM PDT by Wuli
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