Posted on 04/08/2011 6:13:36 PM PDT by fuzzybutt
MESQUITE, Texas - A YouTube video of a police officer using pepper spray on a baby squirrel has sparked outrage in the city of Mesquite, Tx.
A student recorded the incident. In the video, the officer is seen spraying the animal after it began chasing students around at Kimbrough Middle School.
Students are heard begging the cop, reffered to as Officer Davis on the video, to stop with cries of "No!" and "Don't spray him!"
Mesquite Police Department has defended the officer's actions.
Sgt. Wes Talley said the officer stood between a group of students and the animal because he thought it may have been rabid.
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I posted your opinion about animals. As you admitted it was simply a matter of pain so what's the big deal about pepper spraying a squirrel? It's better than waiting for some idiot to try and catch it with a bucket and crush it with the edge of it.
My sister was like the Squirrel Whispererer. She was always taking in the baby squirrels and raising them. She had one that would come back a year later and still show up to take food from her hand.
You would have better luck teaching your car non-Euclidean geometry than convincing Freedomwarrior that cops do wrong.
He has in the past defended cops accuse of nearly everything from assault to murder.
Nah, I've got a Jeep, it'd be far easier teaching it Geology.
Go back and re-read my posts you ignorant fool. I already pointed out the employee/sworn distinction. Do I need to repeat it for you?
Police officers responding to calls DO NOT always run code.
Absolutely, lets do that shall we...
FIrst off you said in post # 74 of this thread,
There are 308 MILLION people in this country, and well over a million law enforcement officers in the United States.
Then I pointed out in post #84 that you were wrong the actual number was closer to 800,000.
You responded in post # 105 and said,
Third, your numbers are flat out wrong. For instance, the FBI list of only STATE Full Time law enforcement employees is over 1,000,000 by itself. Including over 700,000 sworn officers. The Feds employ about 188,000 in addition to these.
This was also where I began suspecting that you are actual a 14 year old kid due in part to such statements by you of EPIC FAIL, etc...
In post #111 I respond with BLS facts supporting my claim of around 800,000 cops int he USA and post a break down of the numbers by the BLS.
In post #113 you replied by claiming the FBI numbers were absolute and the BLS numbers were crap... and regurgitated your well over one million cops claim... you tried to split hair by claiming that...
sworn part-time, auxiliary and reserve positions that are not included in that number.
But you offered up no proof to support that claim. Instead just telling me to "deal with it"...
In post #121 I explained for you in great detail how the FBI collects and compiles data for the yearly UCR, even cited from the FBI's very won UCR website for you, facts disproving your earlier statements and provided you a link to those cites...
In post #126 you babble on again about part-time, reserve and auxiliary sworn positions that are not reflected on the FBIs data. But offer up no supporting evident for your claims.
Then in post #128 you post up an FBI web page that shows CLEARLY IN PLAIN ENGLISH, that the one million plus number you've been tossing around all evening is infact a number that includes 314,570 civilian personnel and 706,886 officer... those two numbers total 1,021,456.... there is your over one million number... you see, right there from the web page you posted and you cite from, that one million number includes 314,570 civilian personnel.
The FBI defines Civilian Personell as employees tasked with non-sworn, administrative duties such as office workers, clerical staff, support staff such as janitors, jail cooks, physical plant maintenance staff, and non-sworn police dispatchers.
Ya know Freedom warrior... when you find yourself in a hole its best to stop digging...
When speeding, weaving in and out of traffic, breaking traffic laws and placing others in harms way. They best be running lights and sirens and exercising due regard for others... is what he's saying... but I really didn't expect you to be able to comprehend as much, you know reading between the lines.
That’s better than how Huckabee would have treated it. He would have gotten chopped up and thrown into a popcorn machine with a pat of butter and salt.
Yep, and as I pointed out to you, there are.
Then I pointed out in post #84 that you were wrong the actual number was closer to 800,000.
Nope, you claimed I was wrong. You have been debunked (as we shall see.)
This was also where I began suspecting that you are actual a 14 year old kid due in part to such statements by you of EPIC FAIL, etc...
Frankly, I don't care what you "suspect", since you have the mentality of an internet l33t warrior, I choose to treat you like one. It amuses me.
In post #111 I respond with BLS facts supporting my claim of around 800,000 cops int he USA and post a break down of the numbers by the BLS.
Wait, didn't your BLS numbers say 883,600? So why are you saying 800,000? Are you lying again?
In post #113 you replied by claiming the FBI numbers were absolute and the BLS numbers were crap... and regurgitated your well over one million cops claim... you tried to split hair by claiming that... sworn part-time, auxiliary and reserve positions that are not included in that number.
No, I pointed out to you that the BLS numbers generally track with the FBI numbers (which are absolute) when you account for only FULL TIME law enforcement officer.
In fact, to show how utterly incompetent and stupid you are, let's look at what I said, then do a little bit of math.
"Third, your numbers are flat out wrong. For instance, the FBI list of only STATE Full Time law enforcement employees is over 1,000,000 by itself. Including over 700,000 sworn officers. The Feds employ about 188,000 in addition to these."
So what is 700,000 + 188,000? Oh wait, 888,000.
Now what was that BLS number that YOU threw out there? Oh wait, it was 883,600. So in other words, virtually identical numbers. Notice that, as I pointed out to you, these include only FULL TIME Sworn positions.
It says right in the FBI data sheet that I linked for you... FULL TIME. The BLS numbers say the EXACT same thing. Reserve, Auxiliary and Part-Time Officers are not included in either data set. The proof was in the data set itself. It specified FULL TIME. I understand you have a reading comprehension problem, but FULL TIME does not mean part-time, reserve (unpaid) or auxiliary (also unpaid.)
New York City alone has 4,500 auxiliary police officers, who aren't reflected in either the BLS numbers or the FBI numbers, because they ARE NOT FULL TIME EMPLOYEES.
In post #121 I explained for you in great detail how the FBI collects and compiles data for the yearly UCR, even cited from the FBI's very won UCR website for you, facts disproving your earlier statements and provided you a link to those cites...
No you didn't you ignorant fool. You rambled on, until I called you on your lie, (apparently you missed the link to the FBI UCR page prior, and data table 74 which listed the information regarding law enforcement employees.)
In post #126 you babble on again about part-time, reserve and auxiliary sworn positions that are not reflected on the FBIs data. But offer up no supporting evident for your claims.
Again you ignorant fool, the support is in the data sheet itself, where it EXPLICITLY says FULL TIME employee. Why do you feel the need to lie?
Then in post #128 you post up an FBI web page that shows CLEARLY IN PLAIN ENGLISH, that the one million plus number you've been tossing around all evening is infact a number that includes 314,570 civilian personnel and 706,886 officer... those two numbers total 1,021,456.... there is your over one million number... you see, right there from the web page you posted and you cite from, that one million number includes 314,570 civilian personnel.
No you ignorant fool, I posted the link earlier in the thread, and you ignored it. (Post 105). I specifically said the following:
There are well over 1,000,000 law enforcement officers in the United States. (Fact, as law enforcement officers include reserve, part-time and auxiliary officers with arrest powers.)
I then said that "the FBI list of only STATE Full Time law enforcement employees is over 1,000,000 by itself. Including over 700,000 sworn officers. The Feds employ about 188,000 in addition to these." Notice, fool, I specifically specified "employees" and "sworn officers." You were just too stupid to read the distinction. Notice also that if you add up 700,000 + 188,000, you get practically the same number in the BLS report, both of which reflect only FULL TIME sworn officers, as specified in the VERY WORDS IN THE DATA SHEET.
You are so caught up in your lying, that you manage to convince yourself of your own lies. It's an amazing thing to behold.
Now, to embarrass you further, let's look at the BLS numbers:
"The employment projections table lists employment statistics from the National Employment Matrix. It includes 2008 employment, projected 2018 employment, and the 2008-2018 change in employment in both numerical and percent terms. Current and projected employment and the numerical change in employment are rounded to the nearest hundred, and the percent change in employment is rounded to the nearest whole number. Numerical and percent changes are calculated using non-rounded 2008 and 2018 employment figures, and then are rounded for presentation in the employment projections table."
"The National Industry-Occupation Employment Matrix is developed by the Bureau of Labor Statistics as part of its ongoing Occupational Employment Projections Program. Data from the 2008-18 matrix underlie information on occupational employment growth presented in the 2010-11 edition of the Occupational Outlook Handbook and Career Guide to Industries (available December 17, 2009). The 2008 matrix was developed primarily from the Occupational Employment Statistics (OES) survey, the Current Employment Statistics (CES) survey, and the Current Population Survey (CPS). The 2018 matrix was developed as part of the procedures used to project occupational employment."
So, let's look at the actual survey sheet used to compile BJS and BLS statistics.
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/csllea08.pdf
Oh wait... what do we see bolded and capitalized throughout the document? That's right... FULL TIME SWORN.
Just like the FBI data.
Just like I said.
Now, let's see if you are honest enough to admit your lies, or if you are the pathetic piece of trash that I think you are.
I often have our yard squirrels come up close to me if I’m sitting on the porch, looking for peanuts. And now that I’ve had some time to observe them, their antics are varied. Sometimes they come up calmly into the yard to take nuts one at a time and bury them, and sometimes they are running and leaping and appear much more energetic.
Today one of them ran across the street to bury a nut and I saw him do a sort of flip in the air over there, don’t know if something scared him or what. Never seen any of them become scary or aggressive.
I have a mind to taze the squirrels in my backyard if they don’t stop chewing up my lawn chair cushions on my back deck.
Every barn-eating insulation-thieving squirrel on earth should be sprayed, shot, bayoneted, hung, stomped on and dispatched to squirrel hell as quickly as possible.
But those were not normal animals. An animal living in the wild that has been tamed through feeding is still dangerous, perhaps more so because they have zero fear of humans.
Released?
Not going to say a word cause then I KNOW I would catch holy hell.
Released. Gradually transitioned to the back yard over a period of weeks. Learned to forage. LOVED her freedom. Quite tasty to a neighbor cat. *sigh*
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