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I don’t know what more could be done to show that the stories we were told were false.

One media person suggested that maybe the online posters were just confused about where they got the images from. But with Starfelt and Infidel Granny having such synchronized stories involving the HSL librarian having the image handy for IG because Starfelt had asked to see it a week earlier... that just seems impossible that both women AND the librarian would be “confused” - particularly since IG said she had asked the Advertiser office and had been told to contact the HSL.

And no matter how you slice it, that HSL librarian sent to Starfelt and IG an image that could not have come from the HSL microfilms. I have seen the e-mail that Starfelt got from the HSL librarian. I know the librarian’s name. Where did she get that Advertiser image from, since it wasn’t from the library’s microfilm? It is identical to the image that Rivero at WRH got from somebody at the Advertiser office. Now why would an image that originated in the Advertiser office get to the librarian at the Hawaii State Library?

The procedure that was used by that librarian was peculiar too - as Fred Nerks and Greenperson have both noted. It was an image in an e-mail.

My colleagues have worked with librarians, including the HSL librarian. When somebody wants a copy they pay for that copy to be made and sent to them. When the HSL makes a copy they have a copyright statement that they put on the copy to cover their legal behinds. Ladysforest, did you post any copies of the first copies we got from the HSL? Sure, you did - when you first posted that you had found the Nordyke announcement. Does that show the copyright notice they put on the page when they make copies for somebody? All that was missing on Starfelt and IG’s copies. And they were sent via e-mail.

So anyway, I don’t know what else could be done to prove that what I’ve documented is true. I’ve shown the claims made and proven that the images come from the sites where the images were posted. I’ve shown the e-mail from Rivero. I don’t know what else could be added.