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The great Moon Hoax of 1835
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| Apr. 4, 2011
| fishtank
Posted on 04/04/2011 1:57:43 PM PDT by fishtank
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To: BenLurkin
Everyone knows that the skeleton discovered on the moon by our Apollo astronauts was wearing blue jeans and tennis shoes when they found it.Nikes, with ZOOM.
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posted on
04/04/2011 3:06:07 PM PDT
by
UCANSEE2
(Lame and ill-informed post.)
To: oremites
It’s not a question of him teaching it. I read accounts where he spoke of it well before his death.
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posted on
04/04/2011 3:08:44 PM PDT
by
SkyDancer
("If You Don't Read The News You're Uninformed, If You Do Read The News You're Misinformed")
To: fishtank
For a short while (I can’t remember the years) it was THE BEST local newspaper in New York. It was intellectually Conservative but avoided all the “yellow journalism” and sensationalism of The Post and The Daily News.
Since it appealed to the more serious news-reader, it also did not garner the ad revenue that print journalism must have just to exist.
When the owners of The New York Sun had to quit their print edition, I was left with the WSJ as the only good alternative to the New York Times. After a few years hiatus, they restarted the web version of the Sun, which is almost as good as the old print version.
Now, under NewsCorp, which bought the WSJ, it - the WSJ - continues to become more Liberal every day on every page but the editorial pages - which were left in the hands of the former owners of Dow Jones (which owned the WSJ and was sold to Murdoch’s NewsCorp).
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posted on
04/04/2011 3:09:19 PM PDT
by
Wuli
To: oremites; Colofornian; Elsie; greyfoxx39
Can any of you all add to this?
Something is not adding up here, but my memory is bad in this.
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posted on
04/04/2011 3:11:16 PM PDT
by
fishtank
(The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
To: oremites
" "Nearly all the great discoveries of men in the last half century have, in one way or another, either directly or indirectly, contributed to prove Joseph Smith to be a Prophet. As far back as 1837, I know that he said the moon was inhabited by men and women the same as this earth, and that they lived to a greater age than we do - that they live generally to near the age of a 1000 years.
He described the men as averaging near six feet in height, and dressing quite uniformly in something near the Quaker style.
In my Patriarchal blessing, given by the father of Joseph the Prophet, in Kirtland, 1837, I was told that I should preach the gospel before I was 21 years of age; that I should preach the gospel to the inhabitants upon the islands of the sea, and - to the inhabitants of the moon, even the planet you can now behold with your eyes.
The first two promises have been fulfilled, and the latter may be verified.
From the verification of two promises we may reasonably expect the third to be fulfilled also."
(This is the exact (though not complete) text of an article in "The Young Woman's Journal", an LDS magazine of the 1890s. The article is dated "Feb 6, 1892". )
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posted on
04/04/2011 3:12:15 PM PDT
by
SkyDancer
("If You Don't Read The News You're Uninformed, If You Do Read The News You're Misinformed")
To: fishtank
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posted on
04/04/2011 3:15:29 PM PDT
by
rdax
To: oremites
President Brigham Young not only taught the moon was inhabited, but the SUN as well. In a sermon delivered in the Tabernacle in Salt Lake City, President Young made these unbelievable statements:
“Who can tell us of the inhabitants of this little planet that shines of an evening, called the moon?...when you inquire about the inhabitants of that sphere you find that the most learned are as ignorant in regard to them as the ignorant of their fellows. So it is in regard to the inhabitants of the sun. Do you think it is inhabited? I rather think it is. Do you think there is any life there? No question of it; it was not made in vain.” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 13, p. 271)
To: SparkyBass
Man, you just stirred the pot. Any truth you reveal these days will cost you, no matter whom it affects.
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posted on
04/04/2011 3:59:33 PM PDT
by
MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
(Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
To: fishtank
***New York Sun newspaper ****
I read about this back in the 1960s from a popular mechanical or scientific magazine. I still have the article.
Wonder if this is where Joseph Smith got his idea of men on the moon!
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posted on
04/04/2011 4:03:32 PM PDT
by
Ruy Dias de Bivar
(Click my name. See my home page, if you dare!)
To: fishtank
I am reminded of an OLD old Wizard of ID cartoon from about 1970.
The Spook(prisoner in the dungeon) digs his way out. When he sticks his head out of the hole, he is on the moon and sees the American flag with astronaut footprints all around it.
He then crawls back into his cell, calls the jailer and asks for the definition of “affluent society”.
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posted on
04/04/2011 4:09:38 PM PDT
by
Ruy Dias de Bivar
(Click my name. See my home page, if you dare!)
To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
There once was a restaurant on the moon but it got closed down. Claims are it had no “atmosphere”.
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posted on
04/04/2011 4:20:30 PM PDT
by
freebird5850
(Of course Obama loves his country...it's just that Sarah Palin loves mine!)
To: freebird5850
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posted on
04/04/2011 4:42:32 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: fishtank
Here are several comments:
Moon/Sun Prophecies
Back to Mormon Quotes Index
Inhabitants of the Moon are more of a uniform size than the inhabitants of the Earth, being about 6 feet in height. They dress very much like the Quaker Style & are quite general in Style, or the one fashion of dress. They live to be very old; comeing [sic] generally, near a thousand years. This is the description of them as given by Joseph the Seer, and he could See whatever he asked the Father in the name of Jesus to see.
- Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr., in Journal of O.B. Huntington, Book 14, p. 166
Who can tell us of the inhabitants of this little planet that shines of an evening, called the moon?... When you inquire about the inhabitants of that sphere you find that the most learned are as ignorant in regard to them as the ignorant of their fellows. So it is in regard to the inhabitants of the sun. Do you think it is inhabited? I rather think it is. Do you think there is any life there? No question of it; it was not made in vain.
- Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 13, p. 271
In my Patriarchal blessing, given by the father of Joseph the Prophet, in Kirtland, 1837, I was told that I should preach the gospel before I was 21 years of age; that I should preach the gospel to the inhabitants upon the islands of the sea, and to the inhabitants of the moon, even the planet you can now behold with your eyes.
- O.B. Huntington, The Young Womens Journal, v. 3, pp. 263-264 (1892)
Now what about the Prophet Joseph Smith? I dont know whether he said men live on the moon or not. But whether he did or not troubles me not in the least. A prophet is wonderful because he sometimes speaks for the Lord. This occurs on certain occasions when the Lord wills it.
- Dr. Henry Eyring, The Faith of a Scientist
If [the sun] was made to give light to those who dwell upon it, and to other planets; and so will this earth when it is celestialized. Every planet in the first rude, organic state receives not the glory of God upon it, but is opaque; but when celstialized, every planet that God brings into existence is a body of light, but not till then.
- Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 13, p. 271
As far back as 1837, I know he [Smith] said the moon was inhabited by men and women the same as this earth, and that they lived to a greater age than we do that they live generally to near the age of 1000 years. He described the men as averaging near six feet in height, and dressing quite uniformly in something near the Quaker style.
- O.B. Huntington, The Inhabitants of the Moon, The Young Womans Journal, 1892, v. 3, pp. 263-164
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posted on
04/04/2011 4:59:00 PM PDT
by
greyfoxx39
(White House war strategy 2011: Sun Tzu meets Barney Fife..H/T Iowahawk)
To: fishtank
"Everybody knows I was the first one there"
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posted on
04/04/2011 5:20:50 PM PDT
by
hattend
(Obama got his 3am call about Egypt. The call went right to the answering machine.- Sarah Palin)
To: SkyDancer
Yes, that's the guy I'm talking about. Don't you think it's a little suspicious that only one person has ever mentioned hearing this amazing proclamation, and not until 40 years after it supposedly happened.
I don't believe Joseph Smith ever taught anything of the kind.
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posted on
04/04/2011 8:35:31 PM PDT
by
oremites
To: greyfoxx39
You'll notice that all quotes attributed to Joseph Smith about moon people go back to O. B. Huntington and no one else. Not one other person claims to have heard Joseph say that. Personally, I believe that Brother Huntington was somewhat of a nutcase.
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posted on
04/04/2011 8:41:31 PM PDT
by
oremites
To: fishtank
To: hattend
I saw that movie at the the theater years ago!
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posted on
04/05/2011 8:23:57 AM PDT
by
Ruy Dias de Bivar
(Click my name. See my home page, if you dare!)
To: oremites; greyfoxx39; fishtank; All
You'll notice that all quotes attributed to Joseph Smith about moon people go back to O. B. Huntington and no one else.Not all the Lds "prophet" quotes made about moon people arise from second-hand sources named Huntington.
Greyfoxx39 cited Brigham Young: Who can tell us of the inhabitants of this little planet that shines of an evening, called the moon? ...when you inquire about the inhabitants of that sphere you find that the most learned are as ignorant in regard to them as the most ignorant of their fellows. So it is with regard to the inhabitants of the sun. Do you think it is inhabited? I rather think it is. Do you think there is any life there? No question of it; it was not made in vain. Source: Journal of Discourses, Vol. 13, p. 271...1870 --
So this was a false prophesy made by Young (yes, no, or typical Mormon crickets' answer when forced to face reality?)
Here Brigham Young had already been leading the Lds church for over 25 years or so when he made the above comment -- including around 25 years as its "prophet."
Brigham Young's first counselor was "apostle" Heber C. Kimball: "Where did the earth come from? From its parents earths...The earth is alive. If it was not, it could not produce." (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 36, 1857)
Yeah. We can tell the top two members of the Lds church in the 1850s, 1860s, and 1870s were in touch with the Mormon god if this was their somewhere-over-the-rainbow ramblings.
To: Colofornian
Well, Colofornian, since you don’t seem to have anything to add to the subject we were talking about (Joseph Smith teaching about moon people), I can only assume that you agree with my assertion that it is very unlikely that Joseph ever really said that quote attributed to him.
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posted on
04/07/2011 5:02:27 AM PDT
by
oremites
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